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#51
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(June 28, 2009 at 2:28 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: So you would "follow the examples of your Prophet (PBUH)" in all respects except marriage to underage girls ... is that right?

Kyu

Like I said before, I always try to follow the examples of my Prophet (PBUH) in all respects but this does not mean that I have to marry a younger wife because he did not make it compulsory. There are things in which he told us to do which makes it compulsory like eating with the right hand and there are things in which he did but did say you have to do it as well like his first wife was almost twice his age and this wife was much younger than him. There were companions during his time who married women younger, same and older than they were and the Prophet (PBUH) was very happy for them.

Ideally for me, I would prefer someone similar age to mine as this is my choice, which is perfectly within the Islamic principles and not going against the Prophet's (PBUH) saying.

I would like to make two last points. Firstly, although it is widely reported that the Prophet (PBUH) married Aisha at the age of nine, many scholars, researchers and other reports suggests that he in fact married her at the age of 17 or that she moved in with him at the age of 17 (prior to this, they didn't have any sexual intercourse). If you ask me, I don't know that exact age although the previous video said age 9 but many other evidence say age 17 but I don't know exactly.

Secondly, Aisha was not an ordinary woman, in Islam she is considered to be 1 of the most important women in Islam and known as one of the mothers of the believers.
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#52
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(June 28, 2009 at 5:22 pm)peace2u Wrote: [quote='Kyuuketsuki' pid='21428' dateline='1246213691']Like I said before, I always try to follow the examples of my Prophet (PBUH) in all respects but this does not mean that I have to marry a younger wife because he did not make it compulsory. There are things in which he told us to do which makes it compulsory like eating with the right hand and there are things in which he did but did say you have to do it as well like his first wife was almost twice his age and this wife was much younger than him. There were companions during his time who married women younger, same and older than they were and the Prophet (PBUH) was very happy for them.

You are dodging so let me try and make this clearer for you.

Do you or do you not think it is OK for someone to marry and have sexual relations with a girl aged 9 because (despite your apologist bullshit) your prophet apparently married a girl of that age for such a purpose?

Kyu
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#53
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(June 28, 2009 at 5:31 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: You are dodging so let me try and make this clearer for you.

Do you or do you not think it is OK for someone to marry and have sexual relations with a girl aged 9 because (despite your apologist bullshit) your prophet apparently married a girl of that age for such a purpose?

Kyu

I believe that it is OK for someone to marry at the age of puberty and not before that as this is within the Islamic principles.
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#54
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(June 28, 2009 at 5:22 pm)peace2u Wrote: Firstly, although it is widely reported that the Prophet (PBUH) married Aisha at the age of nine, many scholars, researchers and other reports suggests that he in fact married her at the age of 17 or that she moved in with him at the age of 17.
This is simply untrue, and quite possibly a lie conceived by Islamic scholars to stop the spread of the fact that Muhammad would be classified as a paedophile in modern culture.

The truth, as told by traditional sources and most widely accepted, is that Muhammad married Aisha when she was either 6 or 7 (not 9). Aisha lived with her parents until she was 9, when Muhammad consummated their relationship.
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#55
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(June 28, 2009 at 5:53 pm)peace2u Wrote:
(June 28, 2009 at 5:31 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: You are dodging so let me try and make this clearer for you.

Do you or do you not think it is OK for someone to marry and have sexual relations with a girl aged 9 because (despite your apologist bullshit) your prophet apparently married a girl of that age for such a purpose?

I believe that it is OK for someone to marry at the age of puberty and not before that as this is within the Islamic principles.

Then in the UK (no matter what their religion) that person would be a paedophile ... end of argument.

Anyway it is nice to know that the tolerant religion, the so-called "Religion Of Peace" harbours (and indeed apparently nurtures) paedophilia (at least in the UK).

Kyu
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#56
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(June 29, 2009 at 1:56 am)Tiberius Wrote: This is simply untrue, and quite possibly a lie conceived by Islamic scholars to stop the spread of the fact that Muhammad would be classified as a paedophile in modern culture.

The truth, as told by traditional sources and most widely accepted, is that Muhammad married Aisha when she was either 6 or 7 (not 9). Aisha lived with her parents until she was 9, when Muhammad consummated their relationship.

In regards to Aisha age of marriage, I believe that the following videos should be considered because as I stated before, I'm not sure about her age but I believe that she was 17 or over when she got married and that the evidence of the vidoes should not be discarded.

Islam: What Was The Age Of Aisha (RA) When She Got Married ?
[youtube]tXaw9UZlK_I[/youtube]

[youtube]tRlRmfOsTLg[/youtube]

If I said that she was 9 years old in my previous comments then I have probably made a mistake because I didn't do my research properly.
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