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What stops you from sinning in heaven?
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What stops you from sinning in heaven?
I was just wondering, from a Christian point of view, what stops the Christian from sinning in heaven? Do you not have free will anymore when you get there? (I'm assuming of course that no one in heaven will ever sin which is what I think most Christians think)

I think I remember from my days as a Christian learning about how Christians will get a "new body" in the afterlife. Is this what keeps you from sinning in heaven? If so, this would seem to imply that it's our current bodies that causes us to sin. Assuming this is true, it seems that it would have been better for God to give all men better bodies.

Also, what sort of body did Adam and Eve sport? Was it the same sort of body that Christians get in the afterlife? Assuming that it was not the same body as in heaven, and assuming that the new body prevents one from sinning, why did not God simply give Adam and Eve the new better body?

But in any case, assuming that no one in heaven will ever sin, what stops a person from sinning in heaven?
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RE: What stops you from sinning in heaven?
(May 10, 2012 at 11:06 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: But in any case, assuming that no one in heaven will ever sin, what stops a person from sinning in heaven?


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RE: What stops you from sinning in heaven?
(May 10, 2012 at 11:06 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: I was just wondering, from a Christian point of view, what stops the Christian from sinning in heaven? Do you not have free will anymore when you get there?
Short answer is no.

Quote:(I'm assuming of course that no one in heaven will ever sin which is what I think most Christians think)
The "Heavenly" experience is divided into two distinct time periods pre and post millennial reign. Pre millennial is where even boarder line Christians live under Christ. At the end of this reign Satan will be loosed again to harvest those find themselves discontented living under the reign or rule of Christ. After this final rebellion and the final judgement those left will live in the expressed will of God.
Rev 20

Quote:I think I remember from my days as a Christian learning about how Christians will get a "new body" in the afterlife. Is this what keeps you from sinning in heaven?
Apparently for the first 1000 or so years just the novelty of being in Heaven.

Quote:If so, this would seem to imply that it's our current bodies that causes us to sin. Assuming this is true, it seems that it would have been better for God to give all men better bodies.
"we" started out with perfect ones.

Quote:Also, what sort of body did Adam and Eve sport? Was it the same sort of body that Christians get in the afterlife?
bible does not say.


Quote:But in any case, assuming that no one in heaven will ever sin, what stops a person from sinning in heaven?
We elect to live in the Expressed will of God.
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RE: What stops you from sinning in heaven?
The only sure thing we can say about Adam's body is that he did NOT have a belly button.

Generally speaking, force of habit. Our position in the afterlife is determined by the nature of our love which becomes increasing fixed. If we loved the Lord and our neighbor during life we continue growing in that direction. If we love only ourselves and our sin more than the Lord and his blessings then we continue in that choice. The Lord never takes away our freedom. An on-going process of regeneration expands our capacity to love and be productive. Freedom increases in heaven as we become more of what we truly are. In contrast, the damned keep chasing after illusions. The ambition of Sisyphus to prove his control and might prevents him from leaving the rock at the bottom of the hill and being useful to others.
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RE: What stops you from sinning in heaven?
(May 10, 2012 at 11:06 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: I was just wondering, from a Christian point of view, what stops the Christian from sinning in heaven? Do you not have free will anymore when you get there? (I'm assuming of course that no one in heaven will ever sin which is what I think most Christians think)

I think I remember from my days as a Christian learning about how Christians will get a "new body" in the afterlife. Is this what keeps you from sinning in heaven? If so, this would seem to imply that it's our current bodies that causes us to sin. Assuming this is true, it seems that it would have been better for God to give all men better bodies.

Also, what sort of body did Adam and Eve sport? Was it the same sort of body that Christians get in the afterlife? Assuming that it was not the same body as in heaven, and assuming that the new body prevents one from sinning, why did not God simply give Adam and Eve the new better body?

But in any case, assuming that no one in heaven will ever sin, what stops a person from sinning in heaven?

Mind you, Adam and Eve were not in heaven when they were created, they were in the Garden of Eden, a different place than "heaven".
And their sin was to disobey. They also had physical bodies, they had to eat and drink and breathe. They were humans in the physical sense.

In heaven, there obviously will be no need to "sin", but I think from Revelations, a thousand years of peace will reign, and then, the peoples of heaven will be put under a final test. Whosoever passes this one, will be "near God". I guess the euphoria of what it means to be near, or close to God should be so unimaginably high, that no one would ever have the need to sin. I'd imagine it as being better than scoring with the finest woman ever, or eating the best kebab, or drinking the finest of wines, or doing the most potent of drugs, or all at the same time.
In short, your ego would be filled in excess, so that you would want nothing more than to be close to God, in heaven.
For what kind of bodies people will have in heaven...Well, as God has used his own soul to fuel the human body, I guess that everyone will resemble the manifestation of God a little bit. Who knows what God looks like, or if our souls take the shape of our worldly bodies. But I guess one can only know after getting there.
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RE: What stops you from sinning in heaven?
"They will be like the angels in heaven" -Jesus
What is an angel?
"Its not what your looking at that matters, its what you see." -Henry David Thoreau
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RE: What stops you from sinning in heaven?
(May 10, 2012 at 11:42 pm)C Rod Wrote: "They will be like the angels in heaven" -Jesus
What is an angel?

What God should have made us as in the first place?
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-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
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RE: What stops you from sinning in heaven?
(May 10, 2012 at 11:21 pm)Drich Wrote: The "Heavenly" experience is divided into two distinct time periods pre and post millennial reign. Pre millennial is where even boarder line Christians live under Christ. At the end of this reign Satan will be loosed again to harvest those find themselves discontented living under the reign or rule of Christ. After this final rebellion and the final judgement those left will live in the expressed will of God.
Rev 20

Bwahahahaha!!!

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o my god that is so funny. I too know exactly what happens when you die and how it's all set up. let me tell you about it....
I was reading this really really old book, written by dozens and dozens of unknown authors, some with borrowed names, and it told me this awesome story about streets of gold and big castles and crowns of gold and gems ... and I could fly around wherever I wanted and eat pie all day and spend time with Ronald Reagan and Billy Graham. It's so awesome. It's gonna be like Harry Potter except with tons of gold and no evil stuff.

I'm gonna have to go without my free will, but it's still gonna be so so so cool. We're all gonna be mindless super-heroes with three worship services every day to tell Captain Heaven that he's sooooo awesome. I'll probably have tons of gold too. God really likes gold. Me too!!! I think I'll get a golden toilet. I probably won't need one because I'll probably poop gold.

Anyway, if you have any more questions, I know all about the afterlife because of this sweet book I found.

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RE: What stops you from sinning in heaven?
(May 10, 2012 at 11:48 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote:
(May 10, 2012 at 11:42 pm)C Rod Wrote: "They will be like the angels in heaven" -Jesus
What is an angel?

What God should have made us as in the first place?

But angels were there before humans.
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RE: What stops you from sinning in heaven?
(May 10, 2012 at 11:51 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:
(May 10, 2012 at 11:48 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: What God should have made us as in the first place?

But angels were there before humans.

That's not my problem.
I'm going to later fairly respond to what has been put forth above, but for now, I just want to say that this thread is going to be hilarious.
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