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Question I want to raise
May 24, 2012 at 11:03 pm
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Forgive me if I am speaking from an Australian prespective. However here in Australia same sex and de-facto couples have essentially the most of the benefits which are given to those couples who are considered legally married.
So I pose a question to those who oppose the legal of same sex marriages. Why just stop at preventing the legal recognition of same sex marriages if you want to protect the institution of marriage. Why not strip same sex and defacto couples of the legal benefits they and married couples enjoy?
If I were a "bible believing" Christian I would be advocating this political position and not care in the least for those who oppose it. Since I would believe that my position is supported by the word of the creator of the universe.
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May 25, 2012 at 12:25 am
Quote:So I pose a question to those who oppose the legal of same sex marriages. Why just stop at preventing the legal recognition of same sex marriages if you want to protect the institution of marriage. Why not strip same sex and defacto couples of the legal benefits they and married couples enjoy?
Why should one do that, really?
They enjoy the same legal benefits, true, but they do not enjoy the same social acceptance and burden, the responsibility that is associated with marriage. And I don't think that society ever did expect such a thing from homosexual couples anyways.
It's a middle path, I believe, that is acceptable, yes?
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May 25, 2012 at 1:56 am
(May 25, 2012 at 12:25 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Quote:So I pose a question to those who oppose the legal of same sex marriages. Why just stop at preventing the legal recognition of same sex marriages if you want to protect the institution of marriage. Why not strip same sex and defacto couples of the legal benefits they and married couples enjoy?
Why should one do that, really?
They enjoy the same legal benefits, true, but they do not enjoy the same social acceptance and burden, the responsibility that is associated with marriage. And I don't think that society ever did expect such a thing from homosexual couples anyways.
It's a middle path, I believe, that is acceptable, yes?
Kılıç_mehmet,
The question I posed was to generally Christian opponents of the legal recongition of same sex marriages.
Anyway when I refer to the legal recognition of same sex marriages. Because such marriages are already occurring, they are just not recognised as such by law in most countries. In my country for example two people of the same sex marrying each other arent arrested or such an act is illegal. Such marriages arent recognised by the government as marriages as opposed to civil unions or domestic partnerships.
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RE: Question I want to raise
May 25, 2012 at 3:49 am
(May 25, 2012 at 1:56 am)Justtristo Wrote: (May 25, 2012 at 12:25 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Why should one do that, really?
They enjoy the same legal benefits, true, but they do not enjoy the same social acceptance and burden, the responsibility that is associated with marriage. And I don't think that society ever did expect such a thing from homosexual couples anyways.
It's a middle path, I believe, that is acceptable, yes?
Kılıç_mehmet,
The question I posed was to generally Christian opponents of the legal recongition of same sex marriages.
Anyway when I refer to the legal recognition of same sex marriages. Because such marriages are already occurring, they are just not recognised as such by law in most countries. In my country for example two people of the same sex marrying each other arent arrested or such an act is illegal. Such marriages arent recognised by the government as marriages as opposed to civil unions or domestic partnerships. Well, I don't have to be christian to oppose it though. Besides, I don't think that Christianity has anything to do with what kind of legal benefits the Australian state grants to gay couples. However, marriage is something that goes beyond economic benefits.
Marriage is something that is both a legal and a social thing. Recognition by law makes it a marriage by law, but this is not what activists strive for.
Marriage here is just a symbolic gesture. A gesture in which gay couples are put on the same level as a heterosexual couple, the traditional norm of marriage, which is able to produce children and create a family that complies with the bare minimum social standards.
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RE: Question I want to raise
May 25, 2012 at 4:14 am
(May 25, 2012 at 1:56 am)Justtristo Wrote: (May 25, 2012 at 12:25 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Why should one do that, really?
They enjoy the same legal benefits, true, but they do not enjoy the same social acceptance and burden, the responsibility that is associated with marriage. And I don't think that society ever did expect such a thing from homosexual couples anyways.
It's a middle path, I believe, that is acceptable, yes?
Kılıç_mehmet,
The question I posed was to generally Christian opponents of the legal recongition of same sex marriages.
Anyway when I refer to the legal recognition of same sex marriages. Because such marriages are already occurring, they are just not recognised as such by law in most countries. In my country for example two people of the same sex marrying each other arent arrested or such an act is illegal. Such marriages arent recognised by the government as marriages as opposed to civil unions or domestic partnerships.
At the end of the day it is the Governmental legislation that counts ...not religion.
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May 25, 2012 at 7:06 am
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Oh good heavens they're trying to be put "on the same level" as everyone else. Uppity faggots. Can't have that, whats next, cats marrying dogs? 
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May 25, 2012 at 10:11 am
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edit - wrong thread. beer at lunch was a bad idea
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RE: Question I want to raise
May 25, 2012 at 10:35 am
(May 25, 2012 at 10:11 am)Chuff Wrote: edit - wrong thread. beer at lunch was a bad idea
Don't you say that, don't you *ever* say that.
Beer at lunch is *always* a good idea.
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RE: Question I want to raise
May 25, 2012 at 10:39 am
(May 25, 2012 at 7:06 am)Rhythm Wrote: Oh good heavens they're trying to be put "on the same level" as everyone else. Uppity faggots. Can't have that, whats next, cats marrying dogs?
What a nice world we have where a bunch of people who had not even enjoyed the right to have a private life, and had to deal with laws regarding sodomy in the last century can dictate how government policies regarding marriage should be changed. I guess the next thing we know that they'll want a country for themselves, so that they can escape the cruel world of the normals.
A world that they obviously do not want to live in accordance with.
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RE: Question I want to raise
May 25, 2012 at 11:37 am
(May 25, 2012 at 10:11 am)Chuff Wrote: beer at lunch was a bad idea
Blasphemer! Heretic!
Beer at lunch is never a bad idea.
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