Dinosaurs and Man

[Cyberman]

My pleasure, RD. Speaking personally, if someone's trying to sell me something that sounds too good to be true, knowing a bit about them might give me an idea as to why.

[Autumnlicious]

Funnily enough, it is a little manoeuvre I picked up from watching Captain Kirk talking alien computers into blowing a fuse.

Isn't that the Landru episode? Love it.

For your information, the episode is named "Return of the Archons."

"You will be absorbed"
"No!"
"..."

[Godscreated]

I got to the bit where he says "contradicts the bible" and quit.

If this man is a real scientist I'm the pope.

He'll be one of those peanuts that automatically rejects anything that isn't in accordance with his stupid book.

And that is not science.

Here is a fine example.

[popeyespappy]

I got to the bit where he says "contradicts the bible" and quit.

If this man is a real scientist I'm the pope.

He'll be one of those peanuts that automatically rejects anything that isn't in accordance with his stupid book.

And that is not science.

Here is a fine example.

If the shoe fits....

[Minimalist]

Of what? Creatards?

We agree.


See, that wasn't so hard.

[Godscreated]

You can't hope to get these people to look at anything that could be evidence against what they believe. Their moto is our science is better than anyone else's, so don't show us anything, we don't need to see it because ours is the only right way. They are and always will be blind, because they choose to be, and then they will say there is no such thing as free will.

"Our science"? There is only one scientific method, you cretin, and all that which creationists hope to pass off as "science" is totally devoid of any kind of legitimate factual evidence. Scientists do not care what it says in the bible, they only wish to ascertain a more accurate estimation of truth. It is coincidence that it usually contradicts your holy book, nothing more. There's no global conspiracy, no deity laying false paths and - infact - almost 70% of scientists believe in a god, so how could they possibly wish to exploit religion? "Our science", honestly! How could you possibly be that ignorant?

I think you know I wasn't talking about two different sciences. I've tried to present science here before, yet no one would look at it, actually I presented it twice, and the second time resulted in the same insults to very intelligent people. So maybe now you see what I mean about "your science".

[ScienceLovesGod]

And all that is just the tip of the ice berg.

"For animals around the planet to migrate to the ark..."

Pangea was pre-flood. There was water under the crust, the crust cracked, and under great pressure, the water shot up like a fountain all over the world. Soon after, the continents were formed.

"The other problem is that the ark cannot float..."

Noah's Ark had the greatest proportions for any ship built in history, 30:5:3. It very much did float.

"The other problem is inbreeding..."

Inbreeding isn't guaranteed death and disease.

"The other problem is having the right space, climate and food..."

There was plenty of room for all species. Except for marine life. Salt water creatures can live in diluted conditions for quite some time. Insects and the like did not have to be on board. They were saved by other means. But doesn't the Bible say everything was killed? No. Genesis 7:22 - All in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, of all that was on the dry land, died. 50% of the Ark was not used. And that's after very liberal estimates. Climate was fine. Food was mainly dried goods, obviously.

"...we can't overcome."

Oh ye of little faith. Any more critiques?

[Erinome]

Pangea was pre-flood. There was water under the crust, the crust cracked, and under great pressure, the water shot up like a fountain all over the world. Soon after, the continents were formed.

Where did all that water go? If what you say were true, all that water would have to go somewhere, or else the continents would be under water. Also, there is no geological evidence to support these claims. None whatsoever, in fact.

This claim is therefore dismissed.

Noah's Ark had the greatest proportions for any ship built in history, 30:5:3. It very much did float.

You're not that bright, or you're willfully ignorant. The titanic was bigger.

Inbreeding isn't guaranteed death and disease.

Obviously, I mean... you're fine, right?

There was plenty of room for all species.

You don't have any clue how many species you're talking about do you? That's clear, so you really don't have to answer that.

Except for marine life. Salt water creatures can live in diluted conditions for quite some time.

Very few can. What about the marine life that depends on osmotic pressure? Why are they still here? They couldn't have survived it. Do you know anything about marine biology? If you did, then you'd know that salt water species excrete salt, and if there isn't enough salt in the water, their CNS will shut down, resulting in death.

Insects and the like did not have to be on board. They were saved by other means.

Really? How? Explain, and please do provide peer reviewed evidence to support this, and all of your claims.

But doesn't the Bible say everything was killed? No. Genesis 7:22 - All in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, of all that was on the dry land, died. 50% of the Ark was not used. And that's after very liberal estimates. Climate was fine. Food was mainly dried goods, obviously.

Climates were fine??????????? What about penguins? Did he have a cold climate for them, while simultaneously creating a hot climate for snakes, lizards, etc? That's crazy fucking bullshit!!!!!!! Listen to yourself!!!! It never fucking happened. I am so sure the lions, tigers, panthers, wolves, eagles and polar bears just LOVED that dried goods diet. Hypercarnivores are all about the dried goods.

And you still haven't answered this question: Humans were inhabiting North America 50,000 years ago. Are you willing to accept that as a fact? If so, are you under the misconception that dinosaurs also inhabited America 50,000 years ago?

[Cyberman]

Noah's Ark had the greatest proportions for any ship built in history, 30:5:3. It very much did float.

You're not that bright, or you're willfully ignorant. The titanic was bigger.

The Ark as described would probably have been the largest wooden boat, proportionally about half the size and as tall as the Titanic. A wooden vessel of such a size without metal bracing would have broken apart quite quickly once afloat, which definitely limits her practical size.

[Minimalist]

There are doctors and then there are doctors, Just.

http://www.ntskeptics.org/2009/2009octob...er2009.htm

When you have some creationist shithole of a college handing them out they don't mean a whole hell of a lot.

But wait. There must be more to all this PCGS business. George Brown has written a review of dubious educational institutions. He has this to say:5

Pacific International University (Victoria) http://www.pacificuniversity.com

Pacific International University had its roots in Melbourne, Australia, and in 1993 obtained accreditation from the Higher Education Division of Victoria to offer Masters and PhD level qualifications. This accreditation was short lived though, and the university relocated to Missouri, USA. For a period of time it still maintained a Victorian address for correspondence and delivery; however, this was removed due to pressure from the Victorian Office of Tertiary Education and Training. In the USA, where it still operates today, it claims accreditation from the 'American Accrediting Association of Theological Institutions Inc.', an unrecognised accrediting agency.

If you remember that guy Dee Tee who was here briefly he claims to have a ph. d. also. I think he got it out of a cereal box marked "Jesus Flakes." Pretending to be scholars is a cottage industry among these creationist shitstains.

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There are doctors and then there are doctors, Just.

http://www.ntskeptics.org/2009/2009octob...er2009.htm

When you have some creationist shithole of a college handing them out they don't mean a whole hell of a lot.

But wait. There must be more to all this PCGS business. George Brown has written a review of dubious educational institutions. He has this to say:5

Pacific International University (Victoria) http://www.pacificuniversity.com

Pacific International University had its roots in Melbourne, Australia, and in 1993 obtained accreditation from the Higher Education Division of Victoria to offer Masters and PhD level qualifications. This accreditation was short lived though, and the university relocated to Missouri, USA. For a period of time it still maintained a Victorian address for correspondence and delivery; however, this was removed due to pressure from the Victorian Office of Tertiary Education and Training. In the USA, where it still operates today, it claims accreditation from the 'American Accrediting Association of Theological Institutions Inc.', an unrecognised accrediting agency.

If you remember that guy Dee Tee who was here briefly he claims to have a ph. d. also. I think he got it out of a cereal box marked "Jesus Flakes." Pretending to be scholars is a cottage industry among these creationist shitstains.

Their moto is our science is better than anyone else's,

You have no science, G-C. You have fairy tales. By the way, there are two t's in motto.