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RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
October 24, 2013 at 6:26 am
(October 24, 2013 at 1:47 am)cato123 Wrote: @OP,
I have a similar problem, but the Christian solution to my dilemma is somewhat attractive. You see, my balls are getting closer to my feet. Using Christian logic, a sagging scrotum isn't a sign of age; it's a sign that God only wants me to think that I'm getting older, but I'm actually still young. Fucking brilliant!
It gets better still. Creationist math means that if you were not young, then given the current rate of testicular descent, the scrotum on a new born baby would have to be located between the nipples
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RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
October 24, 2013 at 8:09 am
@ snowtracks
How exactly did the physical laws of the universe change over time and what evidence do you have to support that claim?
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RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
October 24, 2013 at 8:33 am
(October 24, 2013 at 2:20 am)snowtracks Wrote: they believe the physcial laws changed over time including time itself.
Claim can be rejected because it is irresolvable. There's no way to possibly assert that from a basis of evidence. It is just a god of the gaps argument when trying to resolve inconsistencies with the belief and the evidence available.
I understand, however, that you are not making this claim 
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RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
October 24, 2013 at 12:42 pm
(October 24, 2013 at 8:09 am)TheBeardedDude Wrote: @snowtracks
How exactly did the physical laws of the universe change over time and what evidence do you have to support that claim?
young earth people do.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
October 24, 2013 at 1:36 pm
They're also the same ones who claim that the speed of light changed between 6,000 years ago supposedly when the universe was created and now. It's nothing more than goalpost shifting, and they know there's no way to disprove it (or prove it, but they're not concerned with that).
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
October 24, 2013 at 1:40 pm
I think it's based on the the reported shift in fine structure constant
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RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
October 24, 2013 at 1:48 pm
(October 24, 2013 at 12:42 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (October 24, 2013 at 8:09 am)TheBeardedDude Wrote: @snowtracks
How exactly did the physical laws of the universe change over time and what evidence do you have to support that claim?
young earth people do.
What?
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RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
October 25, 2013 at 3:43 pm
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God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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earthquakes control population and besides: people die. has nothing to do about 'problems'.
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Re: RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
October 25, 2013 at 4:00 pm
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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earthquakes control population and besides: people die. has nothing to do about 'problems'.
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Your God's a sadistic asshole who is worthy of his own hell.
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RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
October 25, 2013 at 4:04 pm
(October 25, 2013 at 3:43 pm)snowtracks Wrote: God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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earthquakes control population and besides: people die. has nothing to do about 'problems'.
I've heard this kind of argument from christians before, about natural disasters, predatory animals and such, and I've never understood why the christian isn't horrified by the implications: what they've essentially admitted is that, rather than just creating humans with a slightly adjusted fertility rate so as to keep the populations stable, god would rather turn the world into an engine of death, where he has to keep culling the population, in nasty and painful ways for whatever reason.
It just... how does that argument not scare the shit out of you, if you actually believe it to be true?
Come to think of it, that last part might be the problem... 
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