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RE: The Irrational Nature Of Atheism - An Explanation Of God, Gods And Goddesses
July 4, 2012 at 2:02 pm
When I see this calibur of blatant ignorance, I am compelled to respond...
I guess I'm back, for whatever that is worth.
Big thing here that invalidates everything you have been saying:
Quote:BTW:
If you want the simplest way to show why atheism is a useful term, look around you. A large majority, at least 80%, of the world believes in God as an all powerful, all knowing, and righteous entity. It says so in your Bible as well, so your quotes from the Bible are in contradiction with the ones referencing God as the all powerful creator.
It really doesn't matter whether or not I can show you where in the bible, but nevertheless-
Matthew 19:26
Revalations 19:6
and for all knowing
Job 37:16
Psalm 147:5
Now, words must convey a meaning or else they aren't a word. If anything could have this quality, then the word is useless.
Quote:Yes. Anything can be a god. Most gods are probably phallic. Any dick can be a god. Its just a word.
If the word is most commonly used as the all powerfull, etc. God that is "alive" and working in people's lives, then that is what God is. Period. There are multiple definitions for a reason...
My conclusion is that there is no reason to believe any of the dogmas of traditional theology and, further, that there is no reason to wish that they were true.
Man, in so far as he is not subject to natural forces, is free to work out his own destiny. The responsibility is his, and so is the opportunity.
-Bertrand Russell
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RE: The Irrational Nature Of Atheism - An Explanation Of God, Gods And Goddesses
July 4, 2012 at 2:15 pm
The Theist Wrote:1. Atheism deniese the existence of gods.
2. A god can be anything or anyone.
3. Atheism is stupid.
Are you seriously trying to refute the lack of belief in god by turning the word 'god' into a completely ambiguous term? Do we seriously have to define this so carefully as to inlcude that atheism is that lack of a super-powerful, immaterial entity responsible for the creation of the cosmos for you?
If I were you I would be more careful in the future with calling things stupid when your argument to refute them is simply redefining terms. It makes you sound...well, stupid.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: The Irrational Nature Of Atheism - An Explanation Of God, Gods And Goddesses
July 4, 2012 at 2:15 pm
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(July 4, 2012 at 2:01 pm)Annik Wrote: (July 4, 2012 at 1:52 pm)The Theist Wrote: I don't know what woo is, but I'm not twisting definitions. Lets look at the facts.
1. Atheism denies the existence of gods.
2. A god can be anything or anyone.
3. Atheism is stupid.
1. Atheism is the non-belief in a god or gods.
2. A god is highly unlikely to exist.
3. There is no evidence for such gods.
4. Your logic is a step below stupid.
There is literally nothing else that can be added to this rebuttal.
Im literally speechless at the odd and bizzare views of the original quote, so I'll just stay silent and not dumb myself down.
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RE: The Irrational Nature Of Atheism - An Explanation Of God, Gods And Goddesses
July 4, 2012 at 2:20 pm
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(July 4, 2012 at 1:52 pm)The Theist Wrote: Lets look at the facts.
1. Atheism denies the existence of gods.
2. A god can be anything or anyone.
3. Atheism is stupid.
Lets look at the facts.
1. Theism claims the existence of gods.
2. A god can be anything or anyone.
3. Theism is stupid.
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RE: The Irrational Nature Of Atheism - An Explanation Of God, Gods And Goddesses
July 4, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Quote:1. Theism claims the existence of gods.
But fails to provide evidence of same.
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RE: The Irrational Nature Of Atheism - An Explanation Of God, Gods And Goddesses
July 4, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Wow, you trolled with the exact same post here too:
http://www.rationalresponders.com/forum/31501
Theistard Troll has a nice ring to it don't you agree?
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RE: The Irrational Nature Of Atheism - An Explanation Of God, Gods And Goddesses
July 4, 2012 at 3:31 pm
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(July 4, 2012 at 3:12 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: Wow, you trolled with the exact same post here too:
http://www.rationalresponders.com/forum/31501
Theistard Troll has a nice ring to it don't you agree?
Fascinating, isn't it? Didn't you used to post on Friendly Atheist forum? Did they finally boot you for being a dick? It always tickles me when the atheists get so bent out of shape they start Googling my every word.
(July 4, 2012 at 3:02 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:1. Theism claims the existence of gods.
But fails to provide evidence of same.
No it doesn't, atheists are only too obtuse to understand it.
Moses and the Judges of Israel were called gods in the Bible. The word god simply means anything or anyone that is considered mighty or is venerated.
Moses and the Judges of Israel were real. They existed. Atheism is stupid.
(July 4, 2012 at 2:20 pm)Tempus Wrote: (July 4, 2012 at 1:52 pm)The Theist Wrote: Lets look at the facts.
1. Atheism denies the existence of gods.
2. A god can be anything or anyone.
3. Atheism is stupid.
Lets look at the facts.
1. Theism claims the existence of gods.
2. A god can be anything or anyone.
3. Theism is stupid.
I wouldn't argue that point.
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RE: The Irrational Nature Of Atheism - An Explanation Of God, Gods And Goddesses
July 4, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Quote:1. Atheism deniese the existence of gods.
Not really. I simply lack belief in the existence of god. Can't deny something you generally don't believe exists.
Quote:2. A god can be anything or anyone.
No need for specifics, we all know what we're talking about. I.E - Higher power, supernatural being, creator of the universe, ect ect.
Quote:3. Atheism is stupid.
Lack of belief in a god or gods is stupid? Why?
For someone who claimed to have been an atheist for a good while seems to know very little about atheism. Now I really don't think you were being entirely honest.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: The Irrational Nature Of Atheism - An Explanation Of God, Gods And Goddesses
July 4, 2012 at 3:40 pm
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(July 4, 2012 at 2:15 pm)Faith No More Wrote: The Theist Wrote:1. Atheism deniese the existence of gods.
2. A god can be anything or anyone.
3. Atheism is stupid.
Are you seriously trying to refute the lack of belief in god by turning the word 'god' into a completely ambiguous term? Do we seriously have to define this so carefully as to inlcude that atheism is that lack of a super-powerful, immaterial entity responsible for the creation of the cosmos for you?
If I were you I would be more careful in the future with calling things stupid when your argument to refute them is simply redefining terms. It makes you sound...well, stupid.
Moses used variations of the Hebrew term El, God, from a root meaning "strong: Mighty" in 1513 B.C.E. and you think that I, not atheism which came along thousands of years later and which questions those very writings, got the meaning wrong?
And I'm stupid?
(July 4, 2012 at 3:37 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: Not really. I simply lack belief in the existence of god. Can't deny something you generally don't believe exists.
Seriously? You only deny those things you know exists?
(July 4, 2012 at 3:37 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: No need for specifics, we all know what we're talking about. I.E - Higher power, supernatural being, creator of the universe, ect ect.
I disagree. There is a need for specifics, if fact that would solve the problem. There are billions of gods and goddesses. Your attention is focused upon 1 or two that allegedly don't exist while at the same time the generic term "god or gods" is used to define atheism.
(July 4, 2012 at 3:37 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: Lack of belief in a god or gods is stupid? Why?
Because it indicates a lack of knowledge of exactly what a god is. It isn't specific.
A god doesn't have to be supernatural. A god can be human, mortal, an inanimate object.
(July 4, 2012 at 3:37 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: For someone who claimed to have been an atheist for a good while seems to know very little about atheism. Now I really don't think you were being entirely honest.
Hmmm. You need to distinguish more accurately the difference between disagreement and dishonesty. I'm not dishonest just because I don't agree with you.
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RE: The Irrational Nature Of Atheism - An Explanation Of God, Gods And Goddesses
July 4, 2012 at 3:52 pm
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Yes, you are dumber than even the overreaching provincial iron age goat fucker Moses, while we are smarter by far and benefits from another 3000 years of knowledge accumulated by other people who are smarter than you, Moses, prophets and Jesus by far.
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