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Good question about life
#11
RE: Good question about life
Quote:How do you explain this reflex more detailed then just: -If we are born without that reflex we don't breath and die, so the acquirement for life, is to have it.


I assure you the answer is not fucking "jesus."
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#12
RE: Good question about life



Interesting article, but it does indeed leave a thing or two unexplained. I wondered if the stopping or slowing of blood from the placenta might cause a drop in blood oxygen level, which itself might trigger a reflex, but I'm not sure there's sufficient time for that to be responsible. I'm sure there's also a radical change in blood pressures throughout the baby's cardiovascular system as well.

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#13
RE: Good question about life
(July 10, 2012 at 1:42 am)cato123 Wrote:
(July 10, 2012 at 1:04 am)Desecrated Wrote: I'm not a christian myself, but I got a pretty good question recently that I was not able to answer with satisfaction. So I registered here in hope of getting some help with this.

-Why is is that we just start breathing on our own? There has to be some sort of force in the universe that activates this.

You sound a lot like Hopmike. Assuming that you aren't Hopmike...

You registered at AF, not to find an answer to your biological question, but to proclaim that the act of breathing requires some supernatural activation.

I fart in your general direction...

No idea who hopmike is. I guess he sounds like a swedish guy then because that is what I am Big Grin
Do a google search for desecrated productions. I'm the owner of that company.

(July 10, 2012 at 1:50 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Is your question : how did organisms evolve to utilise oxygen?
Surely an infants birth reflex works due to it's biological programming that includes breathing. Taking a first breath isn't mysterious, it's an inevitable step of development?

Biological programming sounds waaay to close to intelligent design. Is there some other word to describe this or maybe some way to dumb it down.


(July 10, 2012 at 2:49 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:How do you explain this reflex more detailed then just: -If we are born without that reflex we don't breath and die, so the acquirement for life, is to have it.


I assure you the answer is not fucking "jesus."

Genesis 2:7

then the LORD God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.

isaiah 42:5

Thus says God, the LORD, who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and what comes from it, who gives breath to the people on it and spirit to those who walk in it:

job 33:4
The Spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.

(July 10, 2012 at 3:43 am)apophenia Wrote:


Interesting article, but it does indeed leave a thing or two unexplained. I wondered if the stopping or slowing of blood from the placenta might cause a drop in blood oxygen level, which itself might trigger a reflex, but I'm not sure there's sufficient time for that to be responsible. I'm sure there's also a radical change in blood pressures throughout the baby's cardiovascular system as well.



I was thinking that just the fact that the baby is compressed through the birth-canal it should inflate the lungs when it's finally out and that maybe causes the lungs to deflate a little (action-counteraction). That is pretty much what a breath is.
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RE: Good question about life
Oh goody, bible verses, that explains anything Dodgy
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#15
RE: Good question about life
(July 10, 2012 at 4:52 am)LastPoet Wrote: Oh goody, bible verses, that explains anything Dodgy

Yeah, how do you reason with christians if you don't know your bible? It's like having a discussion with a communist without having read marx.
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RE: Good question about life
(July 10, 2012 at 8:27 am)Desecrated Wrote:
(July 10, 2012 at 4:52 am)LastPoet Wrote: Oh goody, bible verses, that explains anything Dodgy

Yeah, how do you reason with christians if you don't know your bible? It's like having a discussion with a communist without having read marx.

Yes but you're not reasoning with christians on this forum, and atheists do not take kindly to bible verses being quoted at them in support of an argument. Perhaps you should have said "A christian would mention these verses from the bible".

As for your original post, Argument from Ignorance, or Argument from Personal Incredulity . Both PRAT positions. (Previously Refuted A Thousand times)

Regards

Grimesy
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#17
RE: Good question about life
You might as well ask, "why do we breathe?" Why are you breathing right now? Why do you feel an impulse to keep breathing? Wouldn't a newborn simply feel the same impulse?
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.

God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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#18
RE: Good question about life
(July 10, 2012 at 8:27 am)Desecrated Wrote:
(July 10, 2012 at 4:52 am)LastPoet Wrote: Oh goody, bible verses, that explains anything Dodgy

Yeah, how do you reason with christians if you don't know your bible? It's like having a discussion with a communist without having read marx.

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RE: Good question about life
No, no, no! I'm pretty sure that babies start breathing because Jesus comes and blows magic breath into their lungs. I mean, I can't explain it because I've not even tried to look it up, so that must mean that it's a supernatural phenomenon.

Don't be so closed minded, people!

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#20
RE: Good question about life
(July 10, 2012 at 4:07 am)Desecrated Wrote: No idea who hopmike is. I guess he sounds like a swedish guy then because that is what I am Big Grin
Do a google search for desecrated productions. I'm the owner of that company.

I cringed when Google spit back a bunch of sound files. I immediately feared that I was in store for an amateur Skrillex wannabe. I was pleasantly surprised.

I wish you continued success. 'Ghettometal 2' has a Poisonblack/Bill Conti feel. Odd combination I know, but that's what I thought of when I listened. (I know Poisonblack are Finnish. Just referencing their sound.)
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