The business world of religion or THE RELIGIOUS CLUB

[frankiej]

Methinks that you need help, lil' chap.

[LastPoet]

I'm somehow having a deja vu with this guy, I've heard this rethoric & religious views somewhere in this same forum

[Faith No More]

Child murdered, is murder wrong or is it killing the right person right?
The world is me and them but not us. As in I am good you are bad. I’m going to heaven and you are not. I’m right and you are wrong.

People love material, making money and getting rich at the expense of others. Simply to promote pain and suffering on others and profit from it. When people stop condemning what others are doing as wrong and start condemning the same things they are doing, then you will encourage the suffering to stop. If you cannot find and condemn things that you like doing, that makes others suffer. How can you expect others to do the same? It is not about the child, it is about the one doing it, who acts like a child because of their lack of self control.
I am not speaking about the flesh or that you only need one life to be freed from sin. I say this world is a classroom, where God will break us all! We will all be forced to learn and see the truth of our sin and suffering so to disown it. This is the only way to become free from it and its extreme suffering. It may take only 10,000 years or it could take 500,000 years of suffering for every person. However long it takes for God to straighten out our hardhead spirit is what it will be.
We where not kicked out of heaven for no reason. We where not placed in this world to learn sin and suffer. The reason why we where removed from heaven is that we cannot be trusted to do the right thing.
Lying, cheating, stealing and murder are not sinful but the result of sin. It is an example of what a sinner do.

Ah, yes. The good old 'It's not god's fault, it's ours' argument. Well, considering I don't belive in your religion, I believe that is just the human attempt to reconcile a frequently painful existence with an omnipotent deity. If I did believe in god, I would think that is a total copout of a position for an omnipotent deity to take, and would not deem him/her/it worthy of worship.

[Speak Silence]

God showed himself to me after I had suffered very badly. At 8 years old I wanted to be dead before the age of 10. At about the age of 25 all I wanted was to kill some one and everyone. At this point I had suffered so badly that I could no longer think about evil, sin or killing, I just wanted to die!
Then I said, what did I do to deserve this and then God gave me a vision of the last thing I did in heaven!

Believe it or not this is related to U.F.O.s.

GOD ALLOWS US TO SUFFER FOR A GOOD REASON!!!!

It is based on sin or how sin started and it is not like the bible story. The bible talks about stuff like a war in heaven and the sin that came from Adam and Eve. Yes there was a war in heaven and it was the spirit of sin that started it.
God’s spirit is to control every thought, to think and do only good things that benefit everyone.
Our spirit or sin wants to be free and to do things that are only good for ourselves. So we love doing bad things toward others. God is control and God has control over all things. And we are free and we want no control over what we do and think.

ALL BAD THINGS ARE THE RESULT OF LACK OF CONTROL OVER SOMETHING!!!!

Our spirit being blind to sin we must suffer very badly for a very long time. When it starts interfering with sinning, then we will question sin. When you see truth you will see sin and what is causing suffering. Only then can you give up sin to stop being apart of its suffering.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Welcome.
Care to share a more in-depth explanation of how God showed himself to you?

Oh yes,please do,perhaps you could show us your photos?

Yes, I'm teasing. I don't don't doubt you believe your claim to be true. I'd love to believe you,really I would. I will believe you in a second if you will show me some credible evidence.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence (Carl Sagan)

[Godscreated]

@ skb are you trying to say you're one of the fallen angels?
Welcome to the forum.

[pgrimes15]

Then I said, what did I do to deserve this and then God gave me a vision of the last thing I did in heaven!

Can you be more specific please. This tells us little more than "then God showed himself to me".

What was this vision like ?
How did you know it was a vision from God ?
Where were you at the time ?
Was there a series of incidents leading up to this event or was it just at a random time ?
If someone had been with you at the time (maybe they were) would they have seen this vision as well ? or was it personal to you, i.e. just in your mind ?
Was it like watching a film, or just a still image like a photo ?
Was it accompanied by a voice or voices ?
Was it like a dream ?
What do you mean by "the last thing I did in heaven" . . .in a previous life ?

Regards

Grimesy