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RE: Writings during the lifetime of Jesus?
August 4, 2012 at 1:56 pm
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(August 4, 2012 at 1:41 pm)spockrates Wrote: So are you saying, LP that if the writers of the New Testament never claimed Jesus did things you and I find impossible to do, you really wouldn't have a problem believing in him?
Sure, If Jesus was a thinker, that somehow talked about morals & ethics, even philosophy, I wouldn't have any problem believing in him. But if that were the case, your godboy wouldn't grow up to such a legend, perhaps would even be lost in the mists of time. To me is as Carl Sagan said:
"Extraordinary claims, require extraordinary evidence"
If you claimed to have a car in your garage, I wouldn't find it hard to believe you are speaking the truth. But if you claim to have a Jet plane in your garage, capable of VTOL, the I surely would require evidence, and it would be easy enough to do so, giving pics and ownership receips. However, if you claim to have an invisible pink unicorn in your garage, and you could not show it to me by any ways except if I 'believed really hard', then its terribly dishonest of you to ask me to believe in it just by that.
Say, answer me this, if Jesus is the son of god (& at the same time god, if you're a trinity guy), why is it that there is nothing personally written by him? I'm pretty much sure the son of the creator could do something as simple as writing.
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RE: Writings during the lifetime of Jesus?
August 4, 2012 at 2:03 pm
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(August 4, 2012 at 1:52 pm)Napoleon Wrote: (August 4, 2012 at 1:41 pm)spockrates Wrote: So are you saying, LP that if the writers of the New Testament never claimed Jesus did things you and I find impossible to do, you really wouldn't have a problem believing in him?
What difference would it make.
He wouldn't be 'the son of god' in that case and we wouldn't have all you bible bashers running around then would we.
You really do ask such tedious and ignorant questions.
"I have, I fear a tedious way of asking a simple question."
--Socrates (Theaetetus)
Yes, I agree my questions are tedius, but then I'm trying to imitate the one I admire. But regarding your other assertion: Are not all questions asked in ignorance, unless, of course the asker knows the answer before asking?
"If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains (no matter how improbable) must be the truth."
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RE: Writings during the lifetime of Jesus?
August 4, 2012 at 2:05 pm
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Maybe take a leaf out of Socrates book and act a bit more intelligent, and use your own brain than copy and paste quotes.
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RE: Writings during the lifetime of Jesus?
August 4, 2012 at 2:09 pm
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(August 4, 2012 at 2:05 pm)Napoleon Wrote: Maybe take a leaf out of Socrates book and act a bit more intelligent, and use your own brain than copy and paste quotes.
Would you say that someone who is intelligent and not ignorant is someone who asks the questions, or someone who has no need to ask, because he knows the answers already?
"If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains (no matter how improbable) must be the truth."
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RE: Writings during the lifetime of Jesus?
August 4, 2012 at 2:10 pm
(August 4, 2012 at 2:09 pm)spockrates Wrote: (August 4, 2012 at 2:05 pm)Napoleon Wrote: Maybe take a leaf out of Socrates book and act a bit more intelligent, and use your own brain than copy and paste quotes.
Would you say that someone who is intelligent is someone who asks the questions, or someone who has no need to ask, because he knows the answers already?
Nap isn't talking about asking questions in general, he is talking about asking stupid questions.
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RE: Writings during the lifetime of Jesus?
August 4, 2012 at 2:15 pm
(August 4, 2012 at 2:10 pm)frankiej Wrote: (August 4, 2012 at 2:09 pm)spockrates Wrote: Would you say that someone who is intelligent is someone who asks the questions, or someone who has no need to ask, because he knows the answers already?
Nap isn't talking about asking questions in general, he is talking about asking stupid questions.
What makes a stupid question ignorant and an intelligent question knowledgable?
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RE: Writings during the lifetime of Jesus?
August 4, 2012 at 2:17 pm
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(August 4, 2012 at 2:10 pm)frankiej Wrote: Nap isn't talking about asking questions in general, he is talking about asking stupid questions.
As evidenced by the stupid questions he keeps on asking.
For fucks sake this stupidity is too much for me.
Can he not make a single post without asking another stupid question? (That was rhetorical, you don't need to respond with another question to answer my question spock) Argh.
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RE: Writings during the lifetime of Jesus?
August 4, 2012 at 2:19 pm
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(August 4, 2012 at 2:15 pm)spockrates Wrote: What makes a stupid question ignorant and an intelligent question knowledgable?
A question when made just for the sake of asking is stupid and ignorant.
PS- Perhaps Dick can explain it better than I:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkhBcLk_8...plpp_video
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RE: Writings during the lifetime of Jesus?
August 4, 2012 at 2:28 pm
(August 4, 2012 at 2:17 pm)Napoleon Wrote: (August 4, 2012 at 2:10 pm)frankiej Wrote: Nap isn't talking about asking questions in general, he is talking about asking stupid questions.
As evidenced by the stupid questions he keeps on asking.
For fucks sake this stupidity is too much for me.
Can he not make a single post without asking another stupid question? (That was rhetorical, you don't need to respond with another question to answer my question spock) Argh.
I have to ask, for I cannot help but wonder, my friend! You see, in the past I've preficed my questions by apologizing for showing my stupidity in asking them.
The response I've often heard many people say (especially teachers of mine) was, "There are no stupid questions."
Now I hear you saying that there are stupid questions, and so I wonder why what you say is true and what I was told by them was not.
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RE: Writings during the lifetime of Jesus?
August 4, 2012 at 2:32 pm
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(August 4, 2012 at 2:28 pm)spockrates Wrote: The response I've often heard many people say (especially teachers of mine) was, "There are no stupid questions."
Your teachers obviously haven't spent any time on Yahoo answers.
http://www.11points.com/web-tech/11_stup...ed_my_life
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