Being a priest - a shameful path of life?

[Lion IRC]

I find that you are trying to pretend all of the evil clergymen are atheists frightening...

Isnt that the whole point? How would we know?

Hands up all the atheists who are afraid to admit to their (Christian) parishioners that they are liars.

Hands up all the pedophiles pretending to be priests so that they can...you know...whats that line RaphielDrake?...how does it go...?

...a smile here and there, a little communion wine and a few steamy quoted verses about "forbidden fruit" once shes in a full sense of security and I guarantee you at least one would rip off your priest collar

[Cinjin]

Now, a little more than a month after the Portland-based order of Catholic Jesuit priests agreed to pay a $166.1 million settlement, many of those Montana victims are in Great Falls this week as the sweeping agreement gets hashed out.

thankfully, their god works in mysterious ways and also has a lot of cash. hmmmm, god seems to always have a lot of cash and yet never seems to have enough? hmmmm, curious.

[Kayenneh]

Then I read RaphielDrakes post about using altar wine to first get under-age nuns drunk and then take advantage of them.
(Another atheist justifying why they find the clergy a great place to persue an ulterior motive)

This whole thread is appalling!

Oh lighten up, get off your high horse and learn that not everything is meant to take seriously.



As for the OP. I've met priest who promote sexual education, marriage for gays, open-mindedness, equality between the genders etc, so no, I cannot say that are despicable people on a shameful path of life, because they aren't. The only thing them and I disagree on is belief and religion.

[Ciel_Rouge]

As for the OP. I've met priest who promote sexual education, marriage for gays, open-mindedness, equality between the genders etc, so no, I cannot say that are despicable people on a shameful path of life, because they aren't. The only thing them and I disagree on is belief and religion.

Hi Kayenneh! Well... where I live priests promote unprotected sex, say publicly gays should go to hospital and get a treatment for their "disease", encourage repression of women etc. Sure there are those few priests who actually believe in being a good person and indeed do something good (charity etc.). But they could do those things equally well or even better without wasting the rest of their time on being a priest

On the other hand, the vast majority are at least idle in their parasitic lives but this idleness usually turns into some sort of harm towards women, minors or the local community e.g. excessive money draining. In Poland even in the poorest villages the church (the building) is always in excellent condition even if people's homes aren't and if something breaks the money is immediately collected from villagers and the amount is usually a couple of times higher than the actual amount typically spent on such repairs so one could only wonder where the rest of the money goes.

I did not intend this thread as some sort of hate thread. The title was supposed to be provocative to encourage taking a fresh look at the issue from an entirely different perspective. The average Joe will just tell you that priests are such wonderful people because... they are priests ;-) etc.

As for priests being atheists - well, there was a very amusing novel called Justine by Marquis de Sade where the clergymen indeed openly admitted to being atheists. They even said something like "the more we know about religion the more we despise it". For them being a priest meant free access to money and women and legal immunity. Fictional as they were, I suppose this kind of attitude is not entirely unheard of even in our century :-)

[Kayenneh]

Yeah, I do understand your point. All I wanted to point out is that 'priest' does not (necessarily) equal bad person. But yeah, I wouldn't recommend that particular job for anyone. And unfortunately, there are to many dipshits in said profession..

[jonb]

There maybe a few good Jesuits, but I am reminded of the old british governmental stance on the metropolitan police, when a policeman or policemen had been found guilty of corruption, abuse of powers, grievous bodily harm, money laundering, victimisation, racism, or whatever it was that week, a minister would stand up and say a few bad apples do not spoil the bunch.
I did not think that explanation, was good enough at the time but. . .

PS on behalf of RD where is 18 under age?

[Ciel_Rouge]

PS on behalf of RD where is 18 under age?

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[Lion IRC]

There maybe a few good Jesuits, but I am reminded of the old british governmental stance on the metropolitan police, when a policeman or policemen had been found guilty of corruption, abuse of powers, grievous bodily harm, money laundering, victimisation, racism, or whatever it was that week, a minister would stand up and say a few bad apples do not spoil the bunch.
I did not think that explanation, was good enough at the time but. . .

PS on behalf of RD where is 18 under age?

The minimum legal drinking age (altar wine is alcohol) is 21 in the United States.

Kayenneh says I should "lighten up" but we are talking about a post which relates to women under the age of 21 being given alcohol to...[I dont need to repeat it again]

[jonb]

Kayenneh says I should "lighten up" but we are talking about a post which relates to women under the age of 21 being given alcohol to...[I dont need to repeat it again]

And I was just being consolatory about the USA, and then we bump into you topsy turvy man. You are just typical of the christian backbone of a country that is becoming more and more anathema to the rest of the world. Who the fuck do you think you are imposing your cultural values on the rest of the world you arrogant nit whit.
I am proud to say my rugby playing daughter could drink you under the table. Is it any wonder the American empire looks like it is going to be the shortest lived in history? That is because it is composed of too many arrogant fuck whits that cannot conceive anybody has a different (and I would say better) moral code to your own.

[Kayenneh]

The minimum legal drinking age (altar wine is alcohol) is 21 in the United States.

Kayenneh says I should "lighten up" but we are talking about a post which relates to women under the age of 21 being given alcohol to...[I dont need to repeat it again]

Yeah, hello, I'm Finnish. We get to drink legally at 18 (though, one needs to be 21 in order to buy spirits with over 21% of ethanol). Say hi to our brethren in the UK, they can start at 16.. In conclusion, you're being too uptight.