So, Shithead...Why Did YOU Pick Him?

[5thHorseman]

Tea baggers dont know dick about dick. They'll vote Romney whilst the real 'small government' voters will vote for Gary Johnson. Why would the real ones waste time with Romney, he's worse than Obama on civil liberties.

Aclu on Obama - http://www.aclulibertywatch.org/candidates/barack-obama

Aclu on Romney, note the different stances over the years, but the older ones are barely better - http://www.aclulibertywatch.org/candidates/mitt-romney

Aclu on Paul Ryan - http://www.aclulibertywatch.org/content/...iberties-0

[A Theist]

DeistPaladin, you watching this? Ryantology's opinions are what I think about when I hear "wacky left". Your ilk isn't coming across as very reasonable, at the moment--not that my ilk is =(

You know, this "both sides do it" card is really getting old.

Both sides don't. Any time a liberal example is offered, whenever it is offered at all, it's either not true or an exaggeration or a quote that is taken completely out of context.

Ryan hasn't said anything "wacky" as far as I can tell. Do you have any better examples to offer?

No. The only cards being played are the ones you're trying to deal out, 'hypocrisy and double standards'. You far left devotees throw around accusations and distorted claims against conservatives that you've read from some leftwing propaganda source but cry foul and then whine, b*tch and moan when your own hypocrisies and double standards are handed back to you. You're like some spoiled playground crybaby who wants to make the rules to suit you....and if it's anyone who is brainwashed and indoctrinated with hateful propaganda it's all you far left pompousasses who are secluded in your little bubble world.

[Anomalocaris]

. How exactly does a large portion of the electorate self identify as Tea Partiers when the original complaint was against a government mandated tax that enriched a corporation...the East India Company?

OWS acts more in accordace with the spirit of the original grievance than the 'appeal to authority bigoted bible thumpers' do. Only through Christ could a bunch of priviledged bunch of twats convince a gullible, but significant, portion of the electorate to adhere to the idea that making them richer enables the downtrodden. Fucking saps!

Actually, the original tea partiers in Boston seemed somewhat more akin in their immediate interests to the occupy movement anti-globalization crowd. The British wanted the efficient corporation with global reach - east Indian company - to outsource American tea to where it could be grown more efficiently. Tea party localvores objected.

Hey, it's just as good a story!

[DeistPaladin]

No. The only cards being played are the ones you're trying to deal out, 'hypocrisy and double standards'. You far left devotees throw around accusations and distorted claims against conservatives that you've read from some leftwing propaganda source but cry foul and then whine, b*tch and moan when your own hypocrisies and double standards are handed back to you. You're like some spoiled playground crybaby who wants to make the rules to suit you....and if it's anyone who is brainwashed and indoctrinated with hateful propaganda it's all you far left pompousasses who are secluded in your little bubble world.

The psychological projection here would make excellent textbook material. Are you done with your vague accusations and insults or do you have some example of substance to offer?

I'm going to move past the whole "rapists slips into OWS protest camp to assault OWS protester =/= guy inspired by right wing hate propaganda to go murder Dr. Tiller". If you don't get that by now, you never will. We're done discussing it. Anything else?

[A Theist]

No. The only cards being played are the ones you're trying to deal out, 'hypocrisy and double standards'. You far left devotees throw around accusations and distorted claims against conservatives that you've read from some leftwing propaganda source but cry foul and then whine, b*tch and moan when your own hypocrisies and double standards are handed back to you. You're like some spoiled playground crybaby who wants to make the rules to suit you....and if it's anyone who is brainwashed and indoctrinated with hateful propaganda it's all you far left pompousasses who are secluded in your little bubble world.

The psychological projection here would make excellent textbook material. Are you done with your vague accusations and insults or do you have some example of substance to offer?

I'm going to move past the whole "rapists slips into OWS protest camp to assault OWS protester =/= guy inspired by right wing hate propaganda to go murder Dr. Tiller". If you don't get that by now, you never will. We're done discussing it. Anything else?

Agreed. Continuing a conversation with your blind devotion to a far left ideology and all its intolerance is pointless.

But since you asked, there is one other thing before we end our discussion, one more example of your double standards accusing those on the right of hate speech but excusing the hateful propaganda coming out of your own camp...five anarchists, inspired by leftwing hate speech, arrested for plotting to blow up a bridge in Cleveland, Ohio because they have a beef with 'corporate America'.....

http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Clev...526530.php

[DeistPaladin]

Agreed. Continuing a conversation with your blind devotion to a far left ideology and all its intolerance is pointless.

Great conclusion to our disagreement, from the proud tradition of "I know you are but what am I?".

EDIT TO ADD: Though I do want to ask you, were you ever a liberal? I was once a conservative. Which one of us is blindly devoted to a cause and which one of us has demonstrated being open to change?

But since you asked, there is one other thing before we end our discussion, one more example of your double standards accusing those on the right of hate speech but excusing the hateful propaganda coming out of your own camp...five anarchists, inspired by leftwing hate speech, arrested for plotting to blow up a bridge in Cleveland, Ohio because they have a beef with 'corporate America'.....

http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Clev...526530.php

IF it is true, that would make one (1) example of individuals acting in a criminal terroristic way despite calls by OWS leadership for peaceful protest.

Compare and contrast this with last I counted 20 some odd examples of right wing terrorism directly inspired by not just leaders of the Tea Baggers but actual Republican political leaders and notable Fox Noise pundits.

Famous Examples:

• Sarah Palin had rifle sights over Democrat congressional areas of representation
  
• Sharon Angle's second amendment remedies
  
• Rick Perry's veiled threat of secession
  
• Bill O'Riley repeatedly calling Dr. Tiller the "baby killer"
  

Please name for me any notable liberal elected officials or notable pundits (along the lines of O'Riley) that used similar violent rhetoric.

Sorry. You lose sir. Both sides DON'T do it.

[A Theist]

Agreed. Continuing a conversation with your blind devotion to a far left ideology and all its intolerance is pointless.

Great conclusion to our disagreement, from the proud tradition of "I know you are but what am I?".

EDIT TO ADD: Though I do want to ask you, were you ever a liberal? I was once a conservative. Which one of us is blindly devoted to a cause and which one of us has demonstrated being open to change?

But since you asked, there is one other thing before we end our discussion, one more example of your double standards accusing those on the right of hate speech but excusing the hateful propaganda coming out of your own camp...five anarchists, inspired by leftwing hate speech, arrested for plotting to blow up a bridge in Cleveland, Ohio because they have a beef with 'corporate America'.....

http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Clev...526530.php

IF it is true, that would make one (1) example of individuals acting in a criminal terroristic way despite calls by OWS leadership for peaceful protest.

Compare and contrast this with last I counted 20 some odd examples of right wing terrorism directly inspired by not just leaders of the Tea Baggers but actual Republican political leaders and notable Fox Noise pundits.

Famous Examples:

• Sarah Palin had rifle sights over Democrat congressional areas of representation
  
• Sharon Angle's second amendment remedies
  
• Rick Perry's veiled threat of secession
  
• Bill O'Riley repeatedly calling Dr. Tiller the "baby killer"
  

Please name for me any notable liberal elected officials or notable pundits (along the lines of O'Riley) that used similar violent rhetoric.

Sorry. You lose sir. Both sides DON'T do it.

To your first question. I was once a Jimmy Carter Democrat but changed party affiliation and voted for Ronald Reagan.

Violent Rhetoric used by the left....

* Democrats 'Behind Enemy Lines' bullseye map
* Paul Krugman's message to 'progressives' that they should hang Joe Lieberman in effigy
* Mike Malloy's ludicrous rant that Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck, and Sean Hannity were complicit to the 911 terror attacks. On another occassion, Malloy ranted that the Rupublican Party needs to be murdered, beheaded, and executed.
* Montel Williams told Michele Bachman to slit her wrists

Sorry, but we all lose with this kind of hateful rhetoric. Especially the kind that comes from the left.

[DeistPaladin]

Violent Rhetoric used by the left....

Since I've never heard of any of these things before now, I'm going to ask for links. Keep in mind, the last time you provided links and I looked into them, they were stories that actually discredited your stance instead of bolstering it, so I'm a tad skeptical of any claim you make going forward.

In advance, I've never heard of Mike Malloy before now and I was unaware that Montel Williams was either an elected official or a left wing pundit akin to Bill O'Riley. When you provide examples of left wing incitement to violence to justify your "both sides do it" card, you need to do better than "some guy with a blog" or "some guy who had a talk show at one time".

[Faith No More]

Sorry, but we all lose with this kind of hateful rhetoric.

For the first time you actually said something wortwhile, and then...

Especially the kind that comes from the left.

...you said this. No side is entirely clean on this issue, but this statement shows that you are less about actually trying to solve real problems and more about playing the blame game. I wish everyone would stop with the us vs. them mentality.

[Brian37]

can't wait to hear their foreign policy. lol. iran or africa next?

No, if Romney gets elected we will attack Canada, gotta control the pipline.