Quote:How much lower could your taxes be, or the deficit be, if the laws were not so awful?
Probably much the same, as long the US retains its arrogant jingoism

Petition: Eliminate Florida's felony murder rule.
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Quote:How much lower could your taxes be, or the deficit be, if the laws were not so awful? Probably much the same, as long the US retains its arrogant jingoism ![]() Quote:Florida’s harsh 10-20-Life statutes give harsh punishments for all gun crimes. Except for killing a black kid armed with a bag of Skittles. (August 24, 2012 at 12:37 am)Minimalist Wrote: Except for killing a black kid armed with a bag of Skittles....and his fists. The evidence at the trial sure seems to suggest Treyvon was beating the crap out of Zimmerman. I don't like the fact that someone got killed, but if you are being attacked, and you have a gun, use it. RE: Petition: Eliminate Florida's felony murder rule.
August 24, 2012 at 9:44 am
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(August 24, 2012 at 12:37 am)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:Florida’s harsh 10-20-Life statutes give harsh punishments for all gun crimes. Or a foil rapped sub. BTW, withe the amount of rounds that Florida cops are likely to pump into any given person they shoot..you begin to wonder if they imagine that they're fighting a goddamned zombie horde- They don't seem to be capable of putting two in the chest and one in the head -even though they spend considerable amounts of time at ranges- no, no..it's almost a rule that any given perp is going to need to be shot a few dozen times, for effect, I imagine.
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(August 24, 2012 at 4:45 am)Tiberius Wrote:(August 24, 2012 at 12:37 am)Minimalist Wrote: Except for killing a black kid armed with a bag of Skittles....and his fists. The evidence at the trial sure seems to suggest Treyvon was beating the crap out of Zimmerman. I don't like the fact that someone got killed, but if you are being attacked, and you have a gun, use it. The cops told him to back off and Zimmerman persisted, Tibbs. Martin was not stalking him. He was hardly being "attacked." The cop wannabe may have bitten off more than he could chew but Zimmerman was the aggressor. This "stand your ground" shit is a smokescreen. RE: Petition: Eliminate Florida's felony murder rule.
August 24, 2012 at 11:53 am
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(August 24, 2012 at 11:36 am)Minimalist Wrote: The cops told him to back off and Zimmerman persisted, Tibbs. Martin was not stalking him. He was hardly being "attacked." The cop wannabe may have bitten off more than he could chew but Zimmerman was the aggressor. This "stand your ground" shit is a smokescreen.I never said Martin was stalking him. There were eyewitnesses though who saw Martin on top of Zimmerman, beating the crap out of him. Whilst I agree that Zimmerman's decision to follow Martin was ill-advised, it was not illegal to do so, and it certainly isn't an act of aggression to challenge someone. I should also point out that the cops told him no such thing; they said "Ok, we don't need you to do that." That is not an order in any form. Quote:A medical report compiled by the family physician of Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman and obtained exclusively by ABC News found that Zimmerman was diagnosed with a "closed fracture" of his nose, a pair of black eyes, two lacerations to the back of his head and a minor back injury the day after he fatally shot Martin during an alleged altercation.Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerma...DekAkTbGKs ...hardly being attacked my ass. Edit: Also, this: Quote:An autopsy of Trayvon Martin, the black unarmed teenager who was fatally shot by a Florida neighborhood watch volunteer, shows that his body had injuries to the knuckles, while a medical report on the shooter, George Zimmerman, shows that he suffered a broken nose, two black eyes, and cuts on the back of his head, according to a Florida TV news channel and ABC News.Source: http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may/16/...n-20120516 |
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