Why is the sin nature inherited?

[Cinjin]

We've all read it. It's still just as meaningless as it ever was.

[Godscreated]

Okay, so why did he punish them for doing what he wanted them to do?

Give me proof that is what God willed. Scripture is the only place the proof could possibly be.

[Ryantology]

Give me proof that is what God willed.

[Tobie]

Okay, so why did he punish them for doing what he wanted them to do?

Give me proof that is what God willed. Scripture is the only place the proof could possibly be.

Don't you just love some good ol' blatant in your face hypocrisy?

[Faith No More]

It doesn't bother us because we are not the ones who will be toasted for it.

That was exactly my point. As long as god is an asshole to someone else, you don't care. In fact, you seem to take pleasure in it.

[Cyberman]

It doesn't bother us because we are not the ones who will be toasted for it.

Interestingly, I just ran this through Google Translate and this is what came up:

"Fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap"

I have no idea if this is significant.

[Norfolk And Chance]

I've noticed that this option doesn't seem to bother many theists. Apparently this isn't a problem when you're one of the elect.

It doesn't bother us because we are not the ones who will be toasted for it.

No one is getting toasted, cock master. No one, not even you, which is damn unfortunate.

[YahwehIsTheWay]

Ok, I'll keep it simple for you Christians: If Adam and Even were made perfect and then sin entered the world when Adam and Eve ate of the tree of knowledge and as a consequence Adam and Eve were now imperfect, how is it fair for all of their descendent's to be born imperfect and sinful? Isn't it a bit unfair for the descendants to be punished for the sins of the father? Shouldn't everyone be born perfect?

Apparently, if Adam and Eve did not eat of the tree, then we'd all be running naked in some tropical paradise having a good time with no knowledge of sin.

If you're a Christian, and you do not share this traditional understanding of the story of eden, please provide scriptural evidence to support your different understanding.

This kind of justice exists throughout the Old Testament. Even the very 10 Commandments reflect our Lord's sense of justice where the children can be held accountable for the sins of the parents.

Second Commandment:

Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

And our Lord's no liar.

Genesis 9:24-25 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

Exodus 34:6-7 And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,
Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.

Deut 23:2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

Deut 28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
...
Deut 28:18 Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body...
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Deut 28:32 Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people,...

[Cinjin]

Free Will as you know it as it orginated in a greek philosphy, is not a biblical concept.

Well this is a quite a bit of a half truth to say the least. While admittedly the words free will are not in the bible, neither are the words rapture, trinity, or predestination. However the free will concept has long been established and accepted by mainstream christianity and to say it hasn't is just blatantly dishonest. Such scripture references as: Joshua 24:15, Isaiah 65:12, Proverbs 8:10, II Corinthians 9:7, even John 3:16 among dozens of others give substantial credence to the idea of what christians defend as "free will."

We do not have any choice outside of staying seperated from God or returning home to Him. this is your only choice.

You're getting closer to total honesty with this one. There is NO choice ... no addendums, no "outside of ... whatever". There is NO choice when you serve your god.
Of course in other countries/communities you may very well be beaten to death for holding such blasphemous ideas and serving the false god.

It is in this one choice that You have 'free will' to choose your eternal fate. The fact that you are a slave to sin proves you do not have free will as the greek philosphy describes it.

"Your lack of a choice IS your choice." That's some god-like logic right there.

A slave to sin ... that's hilarious because what you call sin is what an educated man calls natural inheritance and genetic programming. Are we slaves to our natural programming?
Sure why not. I'm not about to villanize nature for wanting to enjoy my life. I also don't blame a duck for wanting to swim in the water.


But hey, back on track to my original point.
You wrote: "If Man Was not Meant to Fall then there would not have been a Tree of Knoweledge!!!!!!!!!!"

You openly admit that god created the world and everyone in it, knowing full well that he would then tempt his little humans to commit something that he created, but apparently doesn't like. The temptation successful, god would then be required to sacrifice himself to himself in order to save a small handful of them from a place that he created for everyone who doesn't "choose" to love and obey him. ...oh wait, and then on top of all of this lunacy, your god justified it all by telling you that it's YOUR choice and not his ... as if he was somehow required to create this entire system.
The fact that you believe this makes you not only a fool but also a hypocrite. Why a hypocrite?
Because if someone from another religion came and told you this EXACT same premise you would laugh at him and tell him he was an imbecile.




To forum readers:
I really don't think it's a question of understanding it. They just cannot and will not let go of the baby blanket their parents/teachers/pastors are actually choking them with.

[IATIA]

Because after the fall Adam and Eve coulld only make 'copies' of fallen man.

Now that seems to be particularly unique. I have not heard that one before.