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RE: Why I am still a Christian.
September 3, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Rhythm trod on my punchline but just to echo: if those true and relevant parts remain so regardless of source, then what purpose does the bible serve? Unless you have a table with one dramatically short leg, or need a supply of soft paper following a curry-related emergency, the book is worthless.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Why I am still a Christian.
September 3, 2012 at 5:46 pm
(September 3, 2012 at 5:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Why not source those "true" and "relevant" bits from a place that doesn't have all the garbage attached then?
We are culturally more used to the Bible. If I were a Hindu, I'd use the Veda.
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RE: Why I am still a Christian.
September 3, 2012 at 5:49 pm
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-Insert arguments about being "cultural more used" to any horrible thing here-
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Why I am still a Christian.
September 3, 2012 at 5:53 pm
I can appreciate the sentiment about remaining attached to something for reasons of cultural upbringing, but I'm still trying to wrap my head around accepting and admitting that one's 'holy' book is worthless, since the false and irrelevant bits are obvious crap and the true and relevant bits are still true and relevant regardless of source, yet choosing to remain attached to it; tradition notwithstanding.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Why I am still a Christian.
September 3, 2012 at 6:30 pm
(September 3, 2012 at 5:46 pm)greneknight Wrote: (September 3, 2012 at 5:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Why not source those "true" and "relevant" bits from a place that doesn't have all the garbage attached then?
We are culturally more used to the Bible. If I were a Hindu, I'd use the Veda.
So the bible is just familiar literature?
So is a Tale of Two Cities. So what?
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RE: Why I am still a Christian.
September 3, 2012 at 6:43 pm
(September 3, 2012 at 6:30 pm)Minimalist Wrote: (September 3, 2012 at 5:46 pm)greneknight Wrote: We are culturally more used to the Bible. If I were a Hindu, I'd use the Veda.
So the bible is just familiar literature?
So is a Tale of Two Cities. So what?
Not just familiar literature. It's also the bedrock of our civilization and the source of a lot of our art and culture. Yes, that's about it. If you want to look for something supernatural, look elsewhere. Narnia is a good start. Grimm's Fairy Tales is another.
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RE: Why I am still a Christian.
September 3, 2012 at 6:50 pm
(September 3, 2012 at 6:43 pm)greneknight Wrote: (September 3, 2012 at 6:30 pm)Minimalist Wrote: So the bible is just familiar literature?
So is a Tale of Two Cities. So what?
Not just familiar literature. It's also the bedrock of our civilization and the source of a lot of our art and culture.
Now that's debateable, to say the least.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Why I am still a Christian.
September 3, 2012 at 7:29 pm
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(September 3, 2012 at 6:43 pm)greneknight Wrote: Not just familiar literature. It's also the bedrock of our civilization and the source of a lot of our art and culture. Yes, that's about it. If you want to look for something supernatural, look elsewhere. Narnia is a good start. Grimm's Fairy Tales is another.
Actually, amigo, our civilization had it's bedrock laid before the first jesus shaped uttering ever left the lips of man, as did a vast amount of our art and culture -not to mention that people are the source of both of these things in the first fucking place-.
Weak. Look, I get it, the church is quaint and familiar to you, and that's cool. But this whole "bedrock and art and blah blah"..nah, no dice. I wish I knew more about my deep ancestral past, for example, but knowledge of this was eradicated both in the minds of many and in the physical representations of that culture. If the church ever put a brick on the road it took two from elsewhere and destroyed a fourth.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Why I am still a Christian.
September 3, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Have you ever looked at xtian "art?"
Depressing shit, to be kind about it.
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RE: Why I am still a Christian.
September 3, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Heh, an Atheist madly in love with Christianity that he can't realize he isn't Christian.
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