I am an orthodox Christian, ask me a question!

[chatpilot]

fr0d0,JP,and arcanus are the perfect example of what is defined as a deluded Christian.Your beliefs are not backed by any concrete evidence but instead are based on ancient beliefs and assumptions.You can argue assumptions till your face turned blue and you will still be where you originally started from.Arguing from a presupposition that god exist is what I call ass backward logic and is therefore not valid in this forum.Basing his existence on a bunch of apologists interpretations of ancient script does not solidify your case one iota.Nor does trying to misrepresent science by creating ID and calling it a scientific fact based on your assumptions.

[Kyuuketsuki]

What an absurd statement EV. The evidence question has already been royally trashed. You do nothing to change that.

And you just ignore points made ... a typical Christian apologetic!

No matter how many times you chase this around the tree EV you still have to refute the very clear logic of JP and Arcanus against you.

And no matter what logic you use you are unable to distinguish between a god that requires no evidence from a nothing that requires an equal amount of evidence. Simples!

YOU ARE SAYING NOTHING NEW

YOU ARE SPAMMING

NO, HE ISN'T! STOP AVOIDING POINTS MADE!

2. JP here, and Arcanus elsewhere have explained this so very clearly no one has an excuse not to get it. THERE IS NO NEED for any 'extra evidence/ proof'. It's already there and finished.

And like you JP & Arcanus are unable to distinguish between a god that requires no validatable evidence and a nothing that requires the same!

3. I'm talking about (you and you're zombie attraction to) evidence.

Yet curiously NOTHING ELSE (outside of math) has ever been demonstrated to work!

Kyu

[fr0d0]

2. JP here, and Arcanus elsewhere have explained this so very clearly no one has an excuse not to get it. THERE IS NO NEED for any 'extra evidence/ proof'. It's already there and finished

Bullshit. You only think it was clearly explained because you're predisposed to agree with the conclusion and are willing to make the assumptions JP has to make, and we flatly refuse the assumptions because there is no evidence. TAG is a fucking useless argument for God, it fails.

Exactly. You FLATLY REFUSE for NO VALID REASON.

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Evidence is the only thing that allows us to differentiate between two equally unproven assumptions.

You may not like the fact that we insist upon using the scientific method but we do insist upon it, it is the only reliable, consistent, open, repeatable, falsifiable method that we as a species have ever devised that allows us to differentiate between fact and fiction.

LMAO

And we have pointed out precisely why that is absurd: http://atheistforums.org/thread-1540-pos...l#pid25166

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Your beliefs are not backed by any concrete evidence 1 but instead are based on ancient beliefs and assumptions 2. You can argue assumptions till your face turned blue and you will still be where you originally started from 3. Arguing from a presupposition that god exist is what I call ass backward logic and is therefore not valid in this forum 4. Basing his existence on a bunch of apologists interpretations of ancient script does not solidify your case one iota 5. Nor does trying to misrepresent science by creating ID and calling it a scientific fact based on your assumptions 6.

1. There's that absurdity again
2. Based on personal faith actually
3. It's pretty hard logic not assumption
4. If people stubbournly refuse to consider logic then that's their problem
5. The fact that you can't refute them shows that it does
6. Where did I do that?

[Eilonnwy]

Fr0d0, I said a flatly refuse his premise because there was no evidence for it, which I guess translates to into "no valid reason." Whatever. e_e

Point is, this argument is going around in circles and has been for 60 pages. JP failed to do what he set to do, and he obviously has no interest in continuing. Time to close this thread.