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RE: Hello. Am I the only german here?
September 26, 2012 at 5:30 am
(September 26, 2012 at 12:16 am)Rayaan Wrote: Welcome to the forum.
I see that you have Kurt Godel in your avatar, one of the greatest logician and philosopher that ever lived. I find his ideas really interesting ... stuff like the incompleteness theorem, the limits of human intuition and mathematics, unprovability, self-reference, paradoxes, holes in logic ...
But, strangely, I heard that he eventually starved himself to death because he thought that someone was putting poison in his food.
yes i only recently came to notice about this man although i grew up only about a few hundred miles from where he lived. since about 2 years i am having a very big interest in mathematics and was recently reading through stuff on combinational mathematics - endless but consistant structures - or repeating endless themes - summing up of varriations.
i have recently bought the suposedly great book Gödel, Escher, Bach and will see towards further advancing my knowlege on mathmatics - a subject i once feared. i am still a blind noob on the subject and every further advice on the advance of knowlege will always be met with with appreciation. i came to read about gödle when somewhere somehow coming accross the liars paradox (cratos of creta says all cretans are liars -there for he`s a liar) and it fucked up my brain for quite some time.
the idea of a mathematician who spent his life taking the hardest of all chalenges fascinates me.
he died out of paranoia, he feared his food would be poisoned and his wife had to taste every meal before he ate it. when she was in hospital for half a year - he simply didn`t eat and starved to death.
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RE: Hello. Am I the only german here?
September 26, 2012 at 5:32 am
willkommen!
No I do not speak German. (Google Translate is the best I can do sorry)
But from sunny Perth Western Australia!! I ride with a friend from Kassel who has styled himself as "Die Germanator"
Beautiful part of the world I am to understand...parents went there to see where my father's mother grew up in Todtnauberg.
So yes we are a motley crew here
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RE: Hello. Am I the only german here?
September 26, 2012 at 5:37 am
Also, ich spreche keine Deutsch, aber ich kann ein bisschen verstehen. Ich habe alles vergessen..
That said, hello and welcome to AF from Finland! ^_^
One of my favorite trips abroad was with my best friend to Berlin. Such a nice and beautiful city, I wish I could go there again soon.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: Hello. Am I the only german here?
September 26, 2012 at 5:43 am
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(September 25, 2012 at 11:55 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Meh. Consider that every religion and even every denomination can be practiced differently in different countries. People always see what they want to in their god. To liberal Christians, Jesus was the kind rebel who cared for the poor. To conservative Christians, Jesus was a stern authoritarian who tells us to get right with his father. Why shouldn't denominations and sects be subject to modification by the local followers, just as a religion itself might be?
the possibility indivdualia choosing your faith (let`s not forget even as atheists) is a very importent right indeed! my main problems with most dominations and sects is the in most cases more than obvious politisation of the faith to fit their own personal comforts. if american protestants would realy cherish luthers teaching of reading the bible for themselves and therefor making decisions over what is their faith by themselves instead of being told what to do by some moneygrabbing televangelist who are nothing else but the 21century version of the 15 century greedy pope (first of after reading about all that genocide in genesis i believe most of them would become atheists)
(September 25, 2012 at 11:55 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: You see the same thing in America. I'm not sure if you're familiar with the terms "red" and "blue" as it applies to American politics and culture. You see these colors on our election maps every four years.
"Red" or "red states" refers to areas of America, mostly the south or central western states. These are conservative areas, deeply religious, filled with myopic ignorant people chanting "USA! USA!" or "We're #1" even though they've likely never seen any other country. (how ironic that you might associate the color red with the far left). These are the states in our "Bible Belt".
"Blue" or "blue states" refers to more progressive, less religious areas of the country. Not surprisingly, these less religious areas are not only more educated but have a higher standard of living, fewer social problems, lower crime rates, etc.
well i am proud to say that currently the traditional political landscape of germany is collapsing. the german conservative party under merkel has become a more tolerant and more secular and middle class party while left wing parties are more and more flirting with buisnesses. states wich use to be conservative like baden würtenberg now have a liberal goverment and places wich use to be left leaning such as nordreihnwestfahlen had conservative goverments.
in todays german political electoral system the arguments you present have to go through a process almoust as thought as scientific review.
they matter more than your look, slogan or your faith
Quote:Here's hoping the Muslims don't ruin that paradise.
i am unfortunatly hardly informed at all on the state of islamic imigration into the netherlands
I think my english isn`t as bad as i thought at the beginning, i believe the members of this forum will have the decency to notify me if i seem to be writing german to english translated meaningless gibberish
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RE: Hello. Am I the only german here?
September 26, 2012 at 5:54 am
(This post was last modified: September 26, 2012 at 5:55 am by Darth.)
Yah! I understood most of that (kayenneh's post) only had to look up bisschen.
I'm trying to learn it, with what little free time I have, I'm about to go on break when I'll be learning it more intensively.
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RE: Hello. Am I the only german here?
September 26, 2012 at 5:57 am
(September 26, 2012 at 5:54 am)Stue Denim Wrote: I'm about to go on break when I'll be learning it more intensively.
where are you planning to go?
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RE: Hello. Am I the only german here?
September 26, 2012 at 5:58 am
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Oh right, I'm not going anywhere this break, just that I'll have the time. The break after that (christmas break) though I'll be going to Switzerland.
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RE: Hello. Am I the only german here?
September 26, 2012 at 9:59 am
(September 26, 2012 at 5:32 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: But from sunny Perth Western Australia!!
Taking a long shot here but are you by any chance Aunte Deluvian from YouTube? I'm a big fan of her work. Not likely since you're not the only free thinker in Perth but thought I'd ask.
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RE: Hello. Am I the only german here?
September 26, 2012 at 8:19 pm
I'm not German, but I've been to Germany.
I don't speak German, but I learned the most important phrase, "ein bier, bitte".
The best beer I ever had in my life!
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RE: Hello. Am I the only german here?
September 26, 2012 at 9:13 pm
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