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Why are YOU an Atheist?
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Why are YOU an Atheist?
Please open up and share.

For me, I cannot remember ever believing. As a young child my school had Christian prayers and hymns during assembly, but like most kids I mimed or hummed, and just pretended to pray. That in itself was no big deal, laziness not rebellion, But by maybe 8 or 9 I was sure I was an atheist although I don't recall anyone ever asking. I remember thinking it was unfair that two other kids whose parents were Jehovah's witnesses were excused from the religious section of school assemblies whereas I could not opt out. That's my first solid memory that I can now say "I was already an atheist by then".

One of my parents is quietly atheist although I cannot remember that being a direct influence. I can guess it may have set a precedence in my mind that it was 'allowed'. Even so, I remember being wary of mentioning my atheism to teachers even though they were just regular teachers (it wasn't a particularly religious school or anything) and may well have been atheists for all I knew.

My other parent is a bit religious, and sent me to Sunday school which I hated. The Sunday school was a different denomination to the proper school, which may have helped give me a broader awareness of religious doctrines and the inherent contradiction that raises. I remember thinking that the preacher was nice and well meaning, a true example of a harmless 'good Christian'. I just didn't buy the fairy tales.

So, I think the single biggest factor for me personally was that I never believed the bible stories. I now know that my personality type is very analytical and independent, but awareness of that only came much later. Looking back, even as a child I could see that the bible stories were no more credible than the fairy tales which even as a kid you know are fiction. Plus they were boring and I never had any interest in the mystical "wisdom" hidden in the pretentious answering question with questions nonsense.

By my teens I was definitely atheist and knew of the word, but I wasn't militant. My only interest in religion was avoiding it. The school didn't sing hymns or say prayers except once a year when we had to go to the local church - I liked the walk there and it was a bit of a skive from regular classes. In the compulsory Religious Education class I found that whilst everyone was disinterested, I was the only atheist in the class - my teacher taught about other religions but clearly was Christian. After years of detecting my lack of belief, she confronted me about it, to which I mischievously answered that I was a Satanist despite having only the vaguest understanding of what that means. She actually cried and I felt bad, but I also couldn't believe that she believed me. I remember thinking that only someone who believes the fairy tales in the bible would be gullible enough to believe a 15 year old kid saying that they are a Satanist.

During collage I met people who came from privileged backgrounds who had been taught debating. I was amazed that well educated and intelligent people were so religious, albeit in a hypocritical way. They introduced me to the rugby anthem "Jerusalem", which I still find a very powerful and moving song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6iaf_jUy2Q
For me there are certain memories and associations that make that song very rousing. The words are nonsense (and I am even quite liberal on the nature of patriotism), but sung in a certain way at certain times it can make Brits cry with patriotic pride. No wonder many armies stick to religion. Experiencing how easily patriotism could be triggered in myself reinforced to me how manipulative religion is; how it is effectively brainwashing and nearly always reinforces some variation of 'them and us' regardless of the "love thy neighbour" wrapping.

Coincidently one of my best friends at the time was studying theology - we never had theological discussions but he is now a vicar.

As an adult I have been very fortunate to have lived in multiple countries, and have friends from even more. I regularly visit countries I never dreamt I would see, and witnessed other religions in a way that I am certain my RE teacher cannot have. I politely follow the etiquette expected when visiting temples or shrines or whatever. Despite the window into certain other religions, enhanced by reading up on what I see, my atheism has only been reinforced. Religion comes from a small mind with limited horizons. I also met American people who were openly amazed that I was an atheist; they had clearly been taught to imagine atheists as either Satanists or communists.

I now realise how damn lucky I am to have been born in modern times, in a country were atheism is widely acceptable (much more so than I found in USA), and despite the best efforts of the religious bigots to undo time. Only now that I value this freedom so much, and am more aware of the religious threats to it, did my disinterest in religion turn to concern about the negative influence it has on everyday lives and threat it is to human progress.


So what about you?
blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” – John 20:26-29
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#2
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist?
My Rugby anthem is this when England won the world cup 2003
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU091YLgC9Q
When they tried to indoctrinate me as a child, the crunch point was miracles, to make a system that you have to intervene in shows you have made it wrong, although at that age I would not have expressed it that way.
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#3
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist?
Mine is an old story, which I've said before on several occasions, however here it is. For me it could be argued - though far from seriously - that it was a violation of my free will, of sorts. I was taught to read by my parents before I even started Primary School, which explains my love of reading and language and for which I shall be eternally grateful. As a result, I've been devouring such knowledge as is contained in literature, and latterly online, throughout my life so far. Also, my parents encouraged me in my childhood fascination for backyard astronomy; so for me, the Universe at large simply had no room for any god-stuff. In fact, such supernatural considerations were never a part of my life whatsoever until very recently, though I'd had the odd encounter or three with others who considered themselves born again and all that. For me, though, if I'd thought about this stuff at all it was merely idle speculation. I knew, for instance, that the Universe wasn't made in six days, literal or not; that our world isn't even remotely special in our Galaxy, let alone the cosmos; and so on.

My inbuilt atheism didn't coalesce until around nine years ago, when I got access to the internet. I'd read a magazine article about that ancient fraud, the Turin Shroud, and how the faker might have done it. One day when I was at work with lots to do but plenty of time in which to do it (in the Civil Service, a job will take exactly as long as it takes, not one minute more or less), I remembered this article and decided to see if I could find some reference to it. Thus I found Ken Humphreys' excellent article - sadly gone from JesusNeverExisted.com, the parent site, but mirrored here - thence I backed into the main site and from there on out, my journey towards the dark side was complete.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Why are YOU an Atheist?
(October 14, 2012 at 2:57 pm)jonb Wrote: When they tried to indoctrinate me as a child, the crunch point was miracles, to make a system that you have to intervene in shows you have made it wrong, although at that age I would not have expressed it that way.
I think that's what I was trying to say, I just used a lot more words.


UB40 are great, but that's not one of their best. The key thing about rousing anthems is everyone singing along.
blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” – John 20:26-29
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#5
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist?
Adam and Eve had two kids, Cain and Able, Cain killed able and was sent to the land of nod where he took a wife. if there are only four people on earth, who was Cain fucking?

This and various other questions were asked by me when I was a kid and the answers were so vague and circular, I realized they had no idea what they were talking about and now knew they were full of shit.

Though I had never really believed in god, as a kid, I did try, but to no avail. If the bible-thumpers do not know what they are talking about, how do they expect me to believe?

With each religion believing in a 'different' god, that was just the last stone on the grave of any potential belief for me.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
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#6
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist?
Why are some people not atheists? bothers me more
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#7
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist?
(October 14, 2012 at 3:06 pm)Doubting_Thomas Wrote: UB40 are great, but that's not one of their best. The key thing about rousing anthems is everyone singing along.
I just wanted to put up a more musical version, than one that had more of an effect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOlpiDYRTDE
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#8
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist?
(October 14, 2012 at 3:34 pm)jonb Wrote: I just wanted to put up a more musical version, than one that had more of an effect.
Best Haka on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI6TRTBZUMM
blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” – John 20:26-29
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#9
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist?
I love the big fellas, saved my old man's life in WWII
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#10
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist?
Quote:who was Cain fucking?

Posterity.
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