The World's Greatest Chart

[Marnie]

Please stop telling jews how to be jews, will you? It makes you seem like a more arrogant shit than ever.

It is their fucking religion and no matter how you try to twist it in knots to suit your own purpose it does not work.

http://jewishisaiah53.com/websiterabbinic53.pdf

Simply put, there are 15 verses in the Targum’s annotation on Isaiah 53 (52:13-15 and 53:1-12), yet with surgical precision, missionary conversionist tracts selectively and deliberately ignore almost all of them with the exception of the first verse on Isaiah 52:13. This is a well-worn technique of wielding rabbinic literature as an evangelical sledgehammer, in order to drive home the well-crafted
message to unlettered Jews that ancient rabbis concealed the truth that Isaiah 53 is speaking of Jesus, and not the nation of Israel. Nothing, of course, could be further from the truth.

Wait, huh? Who said that? I would've responded to that but I didn't notice. At first I thought you were yelling at me.

[Minimalist]

No, no. Not you. You're fine.

[Drich]

It depends on the time machine. Phone booth time machine, No. Delorean Time machine yes..

That said understand the debate is not about phophecies, rather the lack of them in the 'chart' you were favoring. (The verses did not have anything to do with how they were being repersented.)

The TARDIS kicks the DeLorean's ass. The TARDIS has a swimming pool!

I wouldn't know because the 'Tard'is sucks so bad I can't sit through an entire episode. My sci fi blood runs as green as any vulican, and I have been know to follow and love some pretty out their story lines (time travel ranking slightly higher than deep space exploration.) That said, I just can not stomach dr. who.

You know I was orginally speaking about the bill and ted phone booth, but the Dr. who's 'tard'booth can just as easily be dismissed as a crediable time machine as well. It's kinda ironic that two complete different d-bag time travelers with two completely different core story lines use the same method of time travel. I guess the phone booth is the common thread that ties all bad time travel story lines together.

That said I will list several other acceptable forms of time travel:
Vortex and a fully armed US Aircraft carrier, Energy orb that one must appearently enter naked, a Geared clock work time sled, a warp 10+ sling shot around the sun, or Even Inventing a time machine allowing to time travel only on a conscienous level (with in your own life time.) allowing you to possess someone elses body. what do all of these methods have in common? No Phone Booths!

[Faith No More]

You know, Drich, you have said many disagreeable things here, but ragging on "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" is just going too far.

Any movie with George Carlin handing out time machines must be awesome.

[Marnie]

You know, Drich, you have said many disagreeable things here, but ragging on "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" is just going too far.

Any movie with George Carlin handing out time machines must be awesome.

I had never heard of that show until just now.

[Polaris]

"The Messiah will reestablish Jewish religious law as the law of the land."

Aren't you atheists always bitching about this happening (well when the followers of Jesus did this wherever they could with their own spin)?

[Minimalist]

Um, it's about as likely as your dead jew on a stick coming back to life and flying up to heaven.

We "atheists" generally do not put much stock in any religious claims. The reason for that of course is that none of your horseshit ever happens.