Americans, Do Not Vote

[Spectrum]

our short term memory.

I am not exactly with you on the Democrat-praising, but I can't agree more here. Sometimes, I wonder if I traveled here from an alternate reality, because everyone seems to have forgotten what the Bush years were like. Romney has changed from being a liberal Republican to a burning red neo-con along the W. Bush vein, and most people are totally fine with that. Yet, if you ask most people (even Republicans), they claim to dislike Bush. So, why the hell is Romney even around? I can't tell if people really hate Obama so badly, that they would rather vote for Bush 2.0 out of rebellion, or what. I just cannot begin to explain the amnesia. The media hasn't helped, though. Obama inherited the economic crisis, and the media leaves that out, often. And for one, Fox News capitalizes on it.

[Brian37]

our short term memory.

I am not exactly with you on the Democrat-praising, but I can't agree more here. Sometimes, I wonder if I traveled here from an alternate reality, because everyone seems to have forgotten what the Bush years were like. Romney has changed from being a liberal Republican to a burning red neo-con along the W. Bush vein, and most people are totally fine with that. Yet, if you ask most people (even Republicans), they claim to dislike Bush. So, why the hell is Romney even around? I can't tell if people really hate Obama so badly, that they would rather vote for Bush 2.0 out of rebellion, or what. I just cannot begin to explain the amnesia. The media hasn't helped, though. Obama inherited the economic crisis, and the media leaves that out, often. And for one, Fox News capitalizes on it.

Thats what I don't get, if Bush was so great why wouldn't Romney parade him arround considering he has 17 of Bush's former advisors. Other than to say that they are counting on short term memory.

Fearmongering will keep the voter in the gang mentality, if you switch parties you are a traitor. Yet McCain rightfully shot down that woman who feard Obama being a Muslim while condemning Powel for switching his support.

[paintpooper]

Ok I have to chime in.

Obama = Romney. They are both war mongers, both owned by banks and other interests, they do not represent the people.
A vote for either candidate is a vote for illegal wars, killing of innocent civilians, reduction of peoples rights, and drug wars.
So if you vote for them, you agree with those premises.

They use things as gay rights, abortion, and taxes as fringe issues to disassociate the people with the root problems of the US.

They both support Israel, one more then the other, so they support state sponsored terror. Israel is a terrorist state, and an illegal occupation of Palestine as well.

It is the old divide and conquer technique, and it works, D's blame R's and R's blame D's haha they sure got us good, while they both laugh to the bank.

Romney will go to war with Iran and so will Obama, that is unacceptable. To any American it should be unacceptable along with interfering in Syria and Libya(Obama's/NATO illegal war).
Most recent presidents could ALL be tried for war crimes, and they should be, as they are all war criminals and we voted for them. So let's stop voting for an R or a D.

I support Gary Johnson FYI so you know where I stand in our current 2012 race. You could not make me vote for either Romney or Obama as they are both lying murdering criminals, I have morals and don't accept "lesser" evil I accept no evil.

[Brian37]

Ok I have to chime in.

Obama = Romney. They are both war mongers, both owned by banks and other interests, they do not represent the people.
A vote for either candidate is a vote for illegal wars, killing of innocent civilians, reduction of peoples rights, and drug wars.
So if you vote for them, you agree with those premises.

They use things as gay rights, abortion, and taxes as fringe issues to disassociate the people with the root problems of the US.

They both support Israel, one more then the other, so they support state sponsored terror. Israel is a terrorist state, and an illegal occupation of Palestine as well.

It is the old divide and conquer technique, and it works, D's blame R's and R's blame D's haha they sure got us good, while they both laugh to the bank.

Romney will go to war with Iran and so will Obama, that is unacceptable. To any American it should be unacceptable along with interfering in Syria and Libya(Obama's/NATO illegal war).
Most recent presidents could ALL be tried for war crimes, and they should be, as they are all war criminals and we voted for them. So let's stop voting for an R or a D.

I support Gary Johnson FYI so you know where I stand in our current 2012 race. You could not make me vote for either Romney or Obama as they are both lying murdering criminals, I have morals and don't accept "lesser" evil I accept no evil.

You support Garry Johnson because you think no rules are better than checks and balances. You accept a utopia like any other moron who thinks a complex society can be cured by one lable.

You do have your morals, I don't doubt that, but projectionism is a cluster fuck to humanity and you are the same gas on the fire you want to accuse others of doing.

You think that the private sector will self police? HA! Why are we in this mess if they did such a bang up job?

[paintpooper]

Ok I have to chime in.

Obama = Romney. They are both war mongers, both owned by banks and other interests, they do not represent the people.
A vote for either candidate is a vote for illegal wars, killing of innocent civilians, reduction of peoples rights, and drug wars.
So if you vote for them, you agree with those premises.

They use things as gay rights, abortion, and taxes as fringe issues to disassociate the people with the root problems of the US.

They both support Israel, one more then the other, so they support state sponsored terror. Israel is a terrorist state, and an illegal occupation of Palestine as well.

It is the old divide and conquer technique, and it works, D's blame R's and R's blame D's haha they sure got us good, while they both laugh to the bank.

Romney will go to war with Iran and so will Obama, that is unacceptable. To any American it should be unacceptable along with interfering in Syria and Libya(Obama's/NATO illegal war).
Most recent presidents could ALL be tried for war crimes, and they should be, as they are all war criminals and we voted for them. So let's stop voting for an R or a D.

I support Gary Johnson FYI so you know where I stand in our current 2012 race. You could not make me vote for either Romney or Obama as they are both lying murdering criminals, I have morals and don't accept "lesser" evil I accept no evil.

You support Garry Johnson because you think no rules are better than checks and balances. You accept a utopia like any other moron who thinks a complex society can be cured by one lable.

You do have your morals, I don't doubt that, but projectionism is a cluster fuck to humanity and you are the same gas on the fire you want to accuse others of doing.

You think that the private sector will self police? HA! Why are we in this mess if they did such a bang up job?

Your not bringing up any points that I said. You are clueless buddy. I feel sorry for you.
Private sector self police? Did I say that? Of course we need rules and regulations, but they have to be SMART.
Our mess has nothing to do with the "private sector" it has to do with private banking and corporatism. You just don't understand the monetary system.

[JohnDG]

It is my understanding that unless Americans get together, stand up for themselves and restructure the government were all screwed anyways. They taught you how to take shit in stride and only get angry about it, the federal government does not fear the people it's us who fear them. When the guns go, freedom goes.

-"When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." -Thomas Jefferson

-"To disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them."
George Mason

-"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troop."
Noah Webster

[KichigaiNeko]

Be VERY afraid

[Dotard]

Our mess has nothing to do with the "private sector" it has to do with private banking and corporatism.

Explain the differance please.

[Whateverist]

You could not make me vote for either Romney or Obama as they are both lying murdering criminals, I have morals and don't accept "lesser" evil I accept no evil.

So you will vote in such a way as to elect Romney and in your ignorance you don't think that makes a difference.

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You just don't understand the monetary system.

And you clearly don't understand our political system if you think there is any candidate you can vote in as president who will by executive order change the way corporations function.

[Brian37]

You support Garry Johnson because you think no rules are better than checks and balances. You accept a utopia like any other moron who thinks a complex society can be cured by one lable.

You do have your morals, I don't doubt that, but projectionism is a cluster fuck to humanity and you are the same gas on the fire you want to accuse others of doing.

You think that the private sector will self police? HA! Why are we in this mess if they did such a bang up job?

Your not bringing up any points that I said. You are clueless buddy. I feel sorry for you.
Private sector self police? Did I say that? Of course we need rules and regulations, but they have to be SMART.
Our mess has nothing to do with the "private sector" it has to do with private banking and corporatism. You just don't understand the monetary system.

"Smart" to your ilk means when you get what you want, nothing more. Our mess is precisely because the top gets what they want. So if "smart" is what you want the last thing we should be doing is trusting them.

Our monitary system? Yea our "monitary system" has consistantly shipped jobs overseas for the past 30 years and kept wages stagnant while the top gets richer. I do understand our "monitary system". Money equals power.

It does not matter what system you set up. Saudi Arabia is a capitalist country. It's run by a theocratic family that capitalizes off the sale of oil to the rest of the world. Gaddaffi was a billionaire who owned stock in GE.

If you want to support a growing plutocracy go ahead. I don't. I do not want America to be turned into the same slave wages as India and China, which if the top continues to get what it wants, that is where we are headed.

The Constitution is an anti monopoly law but the private sector seems to think that doesn't apply to them, and they are full of shit and dead wrong. So if those at the top want less government, they can get it, but that would require them to have self introspection and ethics. But no matter what this is OUR country. It is not of the rich for the rich only for the rich.

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Be VERY afraid

I agree so why is the top acting as if it is the only thing intitled to run our country? It should be afraid of us, but since money equals power it doesn't have to be afraid of us.

What makes the top t;hink they are the only class? What the fuck makes them think that moeny automatically equals morality? It is obvious to me they don't give one fuck about the rest of us otherwise we would not be in the mess they caused. So damned right they should be afraid of us.

If the top had not been raping us for the past 30 years they would not have anything to be afraid of.