Hell, or rather my brief experience of it.

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explain what?

Why you call DvFs way of reasoning a way of "nazi veriaty"?

and dont chicken out, which is what you seem to do very frequently.

[Edwardo Piet]

I don't believe that that was directed at me actually.

But still: Godwin.

[Drich]

explain what?

Why you call DvFs way of reasoning a way of "nazi veriaty"?

and dont chicken out, which is what you seem to do very frequently.

You are joking right? Re read post 95.

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Isn't agape the love of God or Christ? Atheists don't have that and atheists can be good people too, so agape seems pretty useless to me.

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Isn't agape the love of God or Christ?

yes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape

[Angrboda]

Meh. Drich, I don't fundamentally disagree with your conclusion, I find fault with the process by which you reached that conclusion.


You will embrace or abandon, scorn or praise, any method or argument, based solely on the ad hoc justification that it agrees with your conclusions.

As an amateur philosopher who specializes in, among other things, epistemology — how we know things — I find your reasoning flawed at every turn.

A flawed method for arriving at the truth doesn't find itself at the truth when it is done.

I'd suggest you spend some time studying the soundness of your reasonings, but I know that would fall on deaf ears. You have an incurable disease: you are dumber than a post.

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post 95, he calls you out, on the basis of godwins law, meaning that you dishonestly accuse him of being a nazi in an effort to disqualify him as being a reasonable person without evaluating his actual arguments.


DvF, is right, unless you can prove that he indeed uses "nazi reasoning"

[Drich]

post 95, he calls you out, on the basis of godwins law, meaning that you dishonestly accuse him of being a nazi in an effort to disqualify him as being a reasonable person without evaluating his actual arguments.


DvF, is right, unless you can prove that he indeed uses "nazi reasoning"

Post 94

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Your defination of 'reason' is inaccurate. You believe 'reason' to be the natural conclusion of observal phenomena, but in realitiy 'reason' is the use of natural phenomena to disproove God. If God is indeed the God of the natural universe then Natural phenomena would be the very processes He would use to complete whatever task He set out to complete. That makes Your use of 'reason' more akin to Nazi propaganda, than anything resemblng actual reason. I say Nazi because of the hate and utter distain you have against the one your 'reason' is levied.

What a bunch of shit!
Where to you take the argument from that Cinjins form of reasoning is filled with hate towards those he observes?!?!?!

Your entire noonsenceical rant can be summerised in a statement of:
"God made it, so we dont have to understand it."

I absolutly dont see how you bring the nazi-accusation into this. jet nazi propaganda! Have you ever seen or heared nazi propaganda?!
There is no such thing as reason in them, only dehumanising nonsence based on lies.

Dont throw arround the word nazi when theres a german arround!

[Drich]

Now I bet you wish you kept your trap shut so you could go on thinking I 'chickened out.' Makes me wonder how many other times I "Chickened out" because you did not read or rather selectivly read a post that had an answer spelled out for you, that I simply did not feel the need to repeat.

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[quote]Your defination of 'reason' is inaccurate. [/quote]
Your right! that is an inaccurate use of the word reason.
that is why i took Op's use of the word 'reason' and more accuratly identified as properganda, And because of the Hate and contempt for the one this properganda is levied against, I compared it to some of the Nazi Properganda usd durning the 1930 and 1940 against the Jews. For they too used a wide varity of 'fact' to build what they thought to be a logical arguement/conclusion. Their hate was so strong that they ignored any 'facts' that did not lead to the conclusion that they had already made.

[quote] What a bunch of shit!
Where to you take the argument from that Cinjins form of reasoning is filled with hate towards those he observes?!?!?![/quote]Oh, I don't know, what about the last 7 months of daily dialog i have had with him on this subject?

[quote]Your entire noonsenceical rant can be summerised in a statement of:
"God made it, so we dont have to understand it."[/quote]Your either an idoit or just obstinate. This is the exact oppsite of what I have said at least 6 times in this thread.

[quote]I absolutly dont see how you bring the nazi-accusation into this. jet nazi propaganda! Have you ever seen or heared nazi propaganda?!
There is no such thing as reason in them, only dehumanising nonsence based on lies.[/quote]

Oh you crazy germans..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_propaganda
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/posters1.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/w...lery.shtml
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/ww2era.htm

Are seriously trying to channel cultural exclusivity. (No one can know about Nazi's except those who were born german?)

I think Native Americans and maybe AfricanAmericans can do this and it is wearing thin on soceity. Germany lost that right in 1945.

[quote]Dont throw arround the word nazi when theres a german arround![/quote]Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it... WWI, and then one generation later WWII. Are you setting yourself of for WWIII?

[Edwardo Piet]

Drich, do you believe that the Christian God instils in everyone the love for him, since everyone is made in his own image, even those who don't believe he exists, or can only Christians love him? And if only Christians can love him, how important to you is it that non-Christians are lacking that form of love?

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Your defination of 'reason' is inaccurate.

Your right! that is an inaccurate use of the word reason.
that is why i took Op's use of the word 'reason' and more accuratly identified as properganda, And because of the Hate and contempt for the one this properganda is levied against, I compared it to some of the Nazi Properganda usd durning the 1930 and 1940 against the Jews. For they too used a wide varity of 'fact' to build what they thought to be a logical arguement/conclusion. Their hate was so strong that they ignored any 'facts' that did not lead to the conclusion that they had already made.

I did not write that! Edit your post!

Oh, I don't know, what about the last 7 months of daily dialog i have had with him on this subject?

That is not an answere to why his reasoning is supposidly "nazi-reasoning"

Answere chicken!

Your either an idoit or just obstinate. This is the exact oppsite of what I have said at least 6 times in this thread.

I resist the urge to point out the fact that when you wrote "idiot" to accuse me of being an idiot, you wrote it as

idoit

.

How is it the opposite, you wrote:

You believe 'reason' to be the natural conclusion of observal phenomena, but in realitiy 'reason' is the use of natural phenomena to disproove God. If God is indeed the God of the natural universe then Natural phenomena would be the very processes He would use to complete whatever task He set out to complete.

Now my english isnt the best, but to me this clearly says "God is behind the natural process so reasoning out how it works isnt needed".

Oh you crazy germans..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_propaganda
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/posters1.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/w...lery.shtml
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/ww2era.htm

what is the point of that? how does this show how cinjin uses "nazi reasoning"

Are seriously trying to channel cultural exclusivity. (No one can know about Nazi's except those who were born german?)

No I am saying: "those who lie about historical facts to demonise people in todays sociial debates are moronic assholes of the worst kind."
If you cant prove that Cinjin uses "nazi reasoning" you are one of these moronic assholes, unless you apologise to him!

I think Native Americans and maybe AfricanAmericans can do this and it is wearing thin on soceity. Germany lost that right in 1945.

Can you back up that statement that these minority groups use their history exlusively for their purpose? Who are you to judge when historicly unjust things have been repaied?!
We never had that right! but unlike you we looked for the facts in our history to determin what to do in order for such things never to happen again.

No I am saying: "those who lie about historical facts to demonise people in todays sociial debates are moronic assholes of the worst kind."
If you cant prove that Cinjin uses "nazi reasoning" you are one of these moronic assholes, unless you apologise!

Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it... WWI, and then one generation later WWII. Are you setting yourself of for WWIII?

Those who missuse historical crimes to demonise their opponents on a social level are doomed to be seen as vail idiotic dishonest morons - and are ironicaly not that different from the historic subjects they use!