The Most Explicit Verses on the Godship of Jesus

[Kousbroek]

"gods" =/= God

Darn ... i always thought it was E = m . c2

[Rayaan]

[Kousbroek]

Kousbroek, this whole post addresses your comment as well.

I see what you meant by it now thank you, but because you wrote it down as an equation i answered with one that has more meaning to me than yours ( i'm a lost sole when it comes to religion ) not intended to make fun of you though.

[ronedee]

John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Hebrews 10:20 by a new and living way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, His flesh,

The idea is, that there is by means both of the veil of the temple, and of the body of Jesus, a medium of access to God. God dwelt in the most holy place in the Hebrew temple behind the veil by visible symbols(which tears top to bottom upon Christ's death), and was to be approached by removing the veil. And God dwells in heaven, in the most holy place there, and is to be approached only through the offering of the body of Christ.

The flesh is meant to die with our sinful nature(that we freely chose). But our spirits "can chose" to live on in the divine nature of God!

As much sense as this makes to us...this is a leap of [Faith]! So, what can a Christian offer a person w/o faith?

[Minimalist]

but I think Romans 9:5 states the divinity of Christ pretty clearly

And why do you think that is particularly impressive?


The Iliad names Athena, Aphrodite, Hera, Apollo, Poseidon, Artemis,
and Hermes as divinities. My bet is that you don't agree.

[Justtristo]

I agree with Margaret Barker that a lot of the old Israelite polytheism survived into New Testament times. This belief system rejected the strict monotheism of the priestly caste and considered Yahweh the "second god" who was the son of Elyon (The God Most High). Also Yahweh's consort Asherah in this belief system was the personified wisdom.

I would also agree with Margaret Barker that this belief system influenced profoundly Hellenistic Judaism, Gnosticism and Christianity. Actually it is not a big stretch seeing this belief system evolve into the concept of the trinity.

Therefore I would believe to people who started Christianity, Jesus was a personification of Yahweh, who was the son of the God most high (Elyon). My reading of the Gospel of John and the Pauline Epistles shows that the writers subscribed to that belief system in some form, I have described above.

However the Gospels of Mark, Matthew and Luke have a different christology, which considered Jesus either was a righteous man who was adopted as god's son or a demigod like Hercules.

[Minimalist]

Hercules was waaayyy cooler.

[Rayaan]

[Minimalist]

[smax]

The Bible is one of most ambiguous collection of books in all of literature. It's filled with numerous contradictions. That is why there are literally thousands of denominations within the Christian faith.