Ex-Christians

[Cyberman]

Nope, it's simply a fact that all claims are not valid.

Exactly how we feel about your bullshit. You could try providing actual evidence.


If you had any.

Did the Leghorn really say that? All claims are not valid = no claims are valid ∴ his claims are just as invalid as any other. This is pure nonsense, since it would mean that nothing that anybody ever said would make the slightest sense. True in some cases, but quite demonstrably not all. A simple rearrangement of structure corrects this: Not all claims are valid ∴ some claims are more valid than others. There you go, problem solved.

Language - learn how to use it or look like an idiot.

[Cinjin]

Language - learn how to use it or look like an idiot.

I think this new guy has definitely set the bar to a new low. It's like he pays no attention to the words that fall out of his mouth and then has to figure out a way to make sense of them.

[Jackalope]

Tell you what, stick around for more than a day or two and see for yourself the standards that your brothers-in-Christ use to judge who is/was and who is/was not a True Christian ™ and we'll talk again.

Ok mister know-it-all please explain the standards I've used, you are implying you know aren't you. Hint: I've said some can be a real Christian and then just give it up, for what ever reason that made sense to them. However I would like to see from you what my criteria for being a real Christian is, because when it comes down to it the only thing that counts is what God knows.

LOLWUT? Was I speaking of you? I had Dretch in mind when I wrote the above.

[Ryantology]

No, the claim does not require skill and talent. The authenticity rests in the objective validity - not the claim.

And, you are somehow qualified to be the objective arbiter of what is and is not a valid claim to Christianity? If not, who or what is? What objectively makes a valid Christian?

Since words seem to be troublesome for you, you have to remember that 'objective' means that there is no reasonable way to dispute the claim. If I claim that I play for the Cowboys and this claim is true, I have many ways of conclusively proving it.

Can you even prove that you're a Christian? If so, I request that you do it.

You are simply wrong to believe any claim of Christian constitutes an authentic claim. This should be obvious - even to a stupid Atheist fool, I daresay

I agree with you entirely, as most things Christians claim to be true are complete and utter horse shit. [/quote]

[Godscreated]

Ok mister know-it-all please explain the standards I've used, you are implying you know aren't you. Hint: I've said some can be a real Christian and then just give it up, for what ever reason that made sense to them. However I would like to see from you what my criteria for being a real Christian is, because when it comes down to it the only thing that counts is what God knows.

LOLWUT? Was I speaking of you? I had Dretch in mind when I wrote the above.

"the standards that your brothers-in-Christ use to judge," that sir speaks of me, so answer the questions or leave me out of your conversations.

[Kousbroek]

"the standards that your brothers-in-Christ use to judge," that sir speaks of me, so answer the questions or leave me out of your conversations.

Oh my .. touchy aren't we ...
Does your god allow that sort of attitude ?

[Godscreated]

"the standards that your brothers-in-Christ use to judge," that sir speaks of me, so answer the questions or leave me out of your conversations.

Oh my .. touchy aren't we ...
Does your god allow that sort of attitude ?

You are assuming I have an attitude, I see that I'm defending my past statements, confidence is not an attitude. In this case it's one knowing he's right.

[Kousbroek]

confidence is not an attitude...

Oh yes it is, although i haven't got the slightest idea what you're confident about.
I'm quite confident about the fact that you don't deal with a full deck ..

[Tnmusicman]

I know a lot of atheists will say they are former Christians. How did you know you were a Christian ?? Did you participate in a ritual or say a prayer or go to confession?
Did you have some sort of affirmation that you were a Christian ?

It doesn't matter how legitimate our story is or how identical it is to yours.
It's never good enough. Ask Frohole, Dick, Godspile or any of our local christards ... we weren't REAL CHRISTIANS simply because they say so.

Why bother proving the legitimacy of our conviction to a religion that would rather see us burn anyway?

Nope. not playing.

For Pete's sake I'm not asking you to "play"! It's a single freakin question with no follow up. I'm not answering anybody or making judgements about who was or was not a Christian. If you don't want to answer then fine. Makes no difference to me.

[Minimalist]

LOLWUT? Was I speaking of you? I had Dretch in mind when I wrote the above.

"the standards that your brothers-in-Christ use to judge," that sir speaks of me, so answer the questions or leave me out of your conversations.

Oh, come on G-C. You're a well known horse's ass.