Ex-Christians

[Simon Moon]

That's why I can come here and challenge all of you knowing full well that you cannot defeat anything I argue. Not one of you can demonstrate any defeator to any argument. I can pancake any silly protest you offer in clear reason.

Maybe I missed them, but just what are these arguments of yours that you feel are so 'unassailable'?

I've seen you mention the Ontological argument. I hope that's not what you are hanging you claim of unassailability on.

[Tnmusicman]

THAT'S THE POINT,IM NOT DEBATING WITH YOU OR ANYONE ELSE!! IM ASKING A SINGLE QUESTION TO WHICH THERE IS NO FOLLOW UP QUESTION SO PLEASE DON'T TELL ME TO CALM DOWN BECAUSE YOU ARE THE 4TH PERSON TO INFER THAT IM WANTING TO DEBATE WHEN I HAVE SAID NOTHING THAT WOULD IMPLY THAT!!!

Btw, I really DON'T care if you want to "play" or not. I'm interested in what some people have to say--you would not be one of them,so move along.

Actually, you didn't answer his question. You did lay out a nice strawman, though.

Also, he seems pretty calm to me.

Edit: Until the post above mine. All caps implies rage, man.

Alright tinbrain and garglemesh. Let me explain something to the both of you. I can answer the questions proposed in the OP any way I choose. You two cheesedicks are not the sole deciders of what answers are valid or invalid. Now of course you're both welcome to voice your disdain for my answer, in fact I welcome that, but if you're going to lay into me for something - at least make it something worth while. This "you didn't answer the question" bull shit is just ridiculous.

My original post in this thread.

(9th November 2012 05:59 PM)Cinjin Wrote:




"It doesn't matter how legitimate our story is or how identical it is to yours.
It's never good enough. Ask Frohole, Dick, Godspile or any of our local christards ... we weren't REAL CHRISTIANS simply because they sayo.

Why bother proving the legitimacy of our conviction to a religion that would rather see us burn anyway?
Nope. not playing

I had issue with the fact that you are insinuating I'm not going to take your answer seriously and that several others insinuated the same thing. Then you talk about giving me the history of the previous questions asked that were similar to mine.
Not once did you give a legitimate answer so if you aren't going to give an answer why are you bothering? Was it another chance to say christards and basterdize the forum names of two other Christians because if that's your fuel that's pretty weak. Try swearing a bit along with the insult---that will make it seem more intelligent and yknow, atheists tell me all the time how intelligent they are. If you are an example of atheist intelligence the Christians have NOTHING to worry about. Now, move along.
Btw,tinbrain?? That's weak! ROFL!!!

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garglemesh.

Eh, I prefer what this one woman continually called me on AF.com; Gilgamess.

ROFL! That do sound better,doesn't it.?!!?

[Cinjin]

I had issue with the fact that you are insinuating I'm not going to take your answer seriously and that several others insinuated the same thing. Then you talk about giving me the history of the previous questions asked that were similar to mine.

I don't care if you don't like how I respond to your OP.

Not once did you give a legitimate answer so if you aren't going to give an answer why are you bothering?

Once again you are not the sole decider of what answers are legitimate and what answers are not. Are you really this thick? Is this concept really difficult to understand?

Was it another chance to say christards and basterdize the forum names of two other Christians?

No that's not why. That was just a personal bonus. Frosting on the cake, if you will.

Try swearing a bit along with the insult-

No fuckin problem. I'm god damn happy to oblige you.

--that will make it seem more intelligent and yknow, atheists tell me all the time how intelligent they are. If you are an example of atheist intelligence the Christians have NOTHING to worry about.

I'm not an atheist you halfwit. Atheist in practice, means I don't worship the God I believe in. Perhaps if you took the time to read directly beneath my name, or even better, my profile.
Also atheists don't believe in god(s). That is all. No other condition, intelligence or otherwise, can be attributed to them.

Now, move along.

No I don't think I will. For now you are still entertaining me.
Now dance monkey!

[Gilgamesh]

Cinjin, do you agree that you jumped the gun and assumed his original post was just a gateway to an argument about legitimacy of beliefs - something which he, in no way, insinuated? It is understandable that you would assume this because undoubtedly, you've seen theist's introduce this notion before, in a similar fashion.

[Tnmusicman]

No argument insisting the existence of God is valid until God is conclusively proven to be real. He is fiction until proven otherwise.

Your refusal to accept this does not constitute a victory in debate. Sorry to break your streak. :c

That's obviously false.
The arguments and evidence ARE the demonstration of probable existence (ontological foundations).

Using your sloppy thinking, atoms, subatomic particles, gravity or love could not be proven real. We only know of them by evidence and experience derived from their known effects.

Sorry, but your poor reasoning skills don't defeat anything.

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I don't think you have been paying attention.

Every argument you have put forward has been tired, old, well refuted looonnnggg ago bollocks.

I think you like to delude yourself that you've won an argument the same way my dad does, by being loud and always saying the last thing.
This has no bearing on whether he is right or not, just that he's louder and more persistent.

Then defeat one of them. You can't. You just claim it.

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Feigning Laughter is not an argument. Cinjin You have no argument

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I had issue with the fact that you are insinuating I'm not going to take your answer seriously and that several others insinuated the same thing. Then you talk about giving me the history of the previous questions asked that were similar to mine.

I don't care if you don't like how I respond to your OP.

Not once did you give a legitimate answer so if you aren't going to give an answer why are you bothering?

Once again you are not the sole decider of what answers are legitimate and what answers are not. Are you really this thick? Is this concept really difficult to understand?

Was it another chance to say christards and basterdize the forum names of two other Christians?

No that's not why. That was just a personal bonus. Frosting on the cake, if you will.

Try swearing a bit along with the insult-

No fuckin problem. I'm god damn happy to oblige you.

--that will make it seem more intelligent and yknow, atheists tell me all the time how intelligent they are. If you are an example of atheist intelligence the Christians have NOTHING to worry about.

I'm not an atheist you halfwit. Atheist in practice, means I don't worship the God I believe in. Perhaps if you took the time to read directly beneath my name, or even better, my profile.
Also atheists don't believe in god(s). That is all. No other condition, intelligence or otherwise, can be attributed to them.

Now, move along.

No I don't think I will. For now you are still entertaining me.
Now dance monkey!

Sad,dude sad !!! Taking Gods name in vain...... naughty naughty little one. You are like the kids we use to tease on the playground. Trying to be insulting and you wind up sounding and looking like an arsehole!! I halfway expect to see you with big feet and orange hair.
Move along

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With the exception of Cintwat and a couple others I appreciate your responses to the OP.
Just so we are clear--I didn't get irate at Cun....er......Cintwat because of his non-answer but when after reading the OP and the response is:

(9th November 2012 05:59 PM)Cinjin Wrote:




It doesn't matter how legitimate our story is or how identical it is to yours.
It's never good enough. Ask Frohole, Dick, Godspile or any of our local christards ... we weren't REAL CHRISTIANS simply because they say so.

Why bother proving the legitimacy of our conviction to a religion that would rather see us burn anyway?

Nope. not playing.

...Then yes i got a bit miffed at the unprovoked attitude! What a great pile of straw!! That's what got this whole thing started. I told Cintwat I wasn't asking him to play it was a single freaking question to which he replied I should "calm the fuck down" because he answered me the way he wanted to and he was filing me in on the debates of days past with the same question.
I told him I wasn't debating!!
It was the presupposed idea that I was GOING to debate him or someone else but as I told Cintwat and a couple other Gomers that I wasent debating. Just requesting information to better understand the atheist position regarding the question asked.

[Cinjin]

Sad,dude sad !!! Taking Gods name in vain...... naughty naughty little one. You are like the kids we use to tease on the playground. Trying to be insulting and you wind up sounding and looking like an arsehole!! I halfway expect to see you with big feet and orange hair.
Move along

With the exception of Cintwat and a couple others I appreciate your responses to the OP.
Just so we are clear--I didn't get irate at Cun....er......Cintwat because of his non-answer but when after reading the OP and the response is:

...Then yes i got a bit miffed at the unprovoked attitude! What a great pile of straw!! That's what got this whole thing started. I told Cintwat I wasn't asking him to play it was a single freaking question to which he replied I should "calm the fuck down" because he answered me the way he wanted to and he was filing me in on the debates of days past with the same question.
I told him I wasn't debating!!
It was the presupposed idea that I was GOING to debate him or someone else but as I told Cintwat and a couple other Gomers that I wasent debating. Just requesting information to better understand the atheist position regarding the question asked.

"Cintwat" That's hilarious.

I'm pretty sure that's in the bible too. Quoth Jesus: "Don't turn the other cheek ... call them pussies."
lol
I'm lovin it man. Keep dancin for me. I am utterly entertained.

[Gilgamesh]

"Cintwat" That's hilarious.

I'm pretty sure that's in the bible too. Quoth Jesus: "Don't turn the other cheek ... call them pussies."
lol

I'm lovin it man. Keep dancin for me. I am utterly entertained.

As if to convince yourself.

[Cinjin]

Cinjin, do you agree that you jumped the gun and assumed his original post was just a gateway to an argument about legitimacy of beliefs - something which he, in no way, insinuated? It is understandable that you would assume this because undoubtedly, you've seen theist's introduce this notion before, in a similar fashion.

I did not jump the gun - I didn't "jump" at anything. I gave a response to his questions. In fact, if you'll read it again, you'll notice that I did not scold him in any way for asking the questions. I merely gave him understanding of why it would be pointless for me to offer up validation for a religion that I once practiced. Whether or not he insinuated anything in his original post is of no consequence as I did not accuse him of anything.


Reading comprehension is very important and I think there are a handful of members here that need to really work on that.
I told him to "calm the fuck down" AFTER he blew up and got all butthurt about it. After that it's just been amusing watching him dig his own hole.

If you or anyone else feels that I was unfair in my response than that is certainly your right. It does not however, make you right.

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As if to convince yourself.

I'm pretty sure he's reasonably entertaining without having to convince anyone.

[Minimalist]

Min, how come you only read what you want to read.i said I'm asking a single question -THAT'S IT!!
I didn't get bent out of shape at the non-answer I got- I got bent out of shape because it was implied that I'm wanting to debate about things that I never mentioned.
Why would you even mention asking my church friends. Did you actually read the question??!
doi-oi-oi-oing!!!!!

I counted 3 questions in the OP so perhaps you don't count so well, either.

Regardless....you are about as bent out of shape as one can possibly get.

WTF did you expect on an atheism board? A lot of jesus kumbaya shit?

Many of us have been members of your silly little club and we have quit because none of it makes any fucking sense.

Sorry if you didn't want to hear that but I have little patience for jesus freaks who think the sun shines out their ass.

[Tnmusicman]

Min, how come you only read what you want to read.i said I'm asking a single question -THAT'S IT!!
I didn't get bent out of shape at the non-answer I got- I got bent out of shape because it was implied that I'm wanting to debate about things that I never mentioned.
Why would you even mention asking my church friends. Did you actually read the question??!
doi-oi-oi-oing!!!!!

I counted 3 questions in the OP so perhaps you don't count so well, either.

Regardless....you are about as bent out of shape as one can possibly get.

WTF did you expect on an atheism board? A lot of jesus kumbaya shit?

Many of us have been members of your silly little club and we have quit because none of it makes any fucking sense.

Sorry if you didn't want to hear that but I have little patience for jesus freaks who think the sun shines out their ass.

Why do you think I think the sun shines out me bum?? What have I said that would give you that impression? I hope it's not a blanket statement cause then you are guilty of the same thing you claim Christians are guilty of. Then you are no better than those you chastise.

I know you were former Christians that what I was asking about. Why would I , as you suggest, ask church folks about what it's like to be an atheist who was a former Christian ?? Yeaaah, THAT'S why I asked in an atheist forum. How stupid of me to ask atheists questions in an atheist forum!!! DOI-OI-OING!!

Yes, I DO WANT TO HEAR IT!!! WHY DO YOU THINK I ASKED? But,what I want to hear is an answer to the question I asked. Not some asinine comment about "not playing" and something about burning!!
What did I expect on an atheist board????
I expect what 95% of the others that responded gave me which was a simple answer. To the supposed intellectually superior atheists (AND DEISTS LIKE CINTWAT) it shouldn't be that much of a stretch to give a simple answer.

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Cinjin, do you agree that you jumped the gun and assumed his original post was just a gateway to an argument about legitimacy of beliefs - something which he, in no way, insinuated? It is understandable that you would assume this because undoubtedly, you've seen theist's introduce this notion before, in a similar fashion.

I did not jump the gun - I didn't "jump" at anything. I gave a response to his questions. In fact, if you'll read it again, you'll notice that I did not scold him in any way for asking the questions. I merely gave him understanding of why it would be pointless for me to offer up validation for a religion that I once practiced. Whether or not he insinuated anything in his original post is of no consequence as I did not accuse him of anything.


Reading comprehension is very important and I think there are a handful of members here that need to really work on that.
I told him to "calm the fuck down" AFTER he blew up and got all butthurt about it. After that it's just been amusing watching him dig his own hole.

If you or anyone else feels that I was unfair in my response than that is certainly your right. It does not however, make you right.

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As if to convince yourself.

I'm pretty sure it's reasonably entertaining without having to convince anyone.

Actually,if you notice I didn't jump at you until after you said calm down. What I said to you before was hardly jumping down your throat. If you think it is you need to grow thicker skin.