(November 11, 2012 at 6:54 am)Daniel Wrote:

(November 9, 2012 at 2:50 pm)Strongbad Wrote: 1. I did that.
2. And I did that.

How about that!? I'm "saved", even though I no longer believe a single fucking word of it.

Then you simply handed your salvation back.

Perhaps he simply engaged his brain instead of running his mouth?

(November 11, 2012 at 6:54 am)Daniel Wrote: Then you simply handed your salvation back.

Precisely what any decent person -would- do if such a thing actually existed upon considering the price paid. Sick fuckers.

(November 11, 2012 at 6:54 am)Daniel Wrote: Then you simply handed your salvation back.

So..."salvation", like a hot potato, can be handed back and forth? Christian dimwittery never ceases to astound me.

(November 11, 2012 at 1:11 pm)Cinjin Wrote:

(November 11, 2012 at 12:37 am)Tnmusicman Wrote: For Pete's sake I'm not asking you to "play"! It's a single freakin question with no follow up. I'm not answering anybody or making judgements about who was or was not a Christian. If you don't want to answer then fine. Makes no difference to me.

Calm the FUCK down. I answered your "single freakin question" the way I wanted to. Do I now have to answer your questions according to your proper standard of answer?

"Makes no difference to me."
Clearly it does. Otherwise you wouldn't be so butthurt by my simple response. Furthermore, you yourself said that you didn't know if anyone else had posted such a question. I was filling you on the back story of this debate that we've had over and over.

So once again ... calm the fuck down.

THAT'S THE POINT,IM NOT DEBATING WITH YOU OR ANYONE ELSE!! IM ASKING A SINGLE QUESTION TO WHICH THERE IS NO FOLLOW UP QUESTION SO PLEASE DON'T TELL ME TO CALM DOWN BECAUSE YOU ARE THE 4TH PERSON TO INFER THAT IM WANTING TO DEBATE WHEN I HAVE SAID NOTHING THAT WOULD IMPLY THAT!!!

Btw, I really DON'T care if you want to "play" or not. I'm interested in what some people have to say--you would not be one of them,so move along.

(November 11, 2012 at 1:11 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Calm the FUCK down. I answered your "single freakin question" the way I wanted to. Do I now have to answer your questions according to your proper standard of answer?

"Makes no difference to me."
Clearly it does. Otherwise you wouldn't be so butthurt by my simple response. Furthermore, you yourself said that you didn't know if anyone else had posted such a question. I was filling you on the back story of this debate that we've had over and over.

So once again ... calm the fuck down.

Actually, you didn't answer his question. You did lay out a nice strawman, though.

Also, he seems pretty calm to me.

Edit: Until the post above mine. All caps implies rage, man.

(November 11, 2012 at 11:18 am)DoubtVsFaith Wrote: Maybe not, but if God wants people to keep their faith, stay saved and be Christians, if what God wants is right and if he has the power to do what he wants, why wouldn't he give people the motivation required for that?

He does give motivation but people sometimes give in to other interests. God doesn't force you to stay faithful but I presume He would WANT those who call themselves Christians to stay faithful. It's not really a black and white thing,IMO.

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(November 11, 2012 at 10:50 pm)Gilgamesh Wrote:

(November 11, 2012 at 1:11 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Calm the FUCK down. I answered your "single freakin question" the way I wanted to. Do I now have to answer your questions according to your proper standard of answer?

"Makes no difference to me."
Clearly it does. Otherwise you wouldn't be so butthurt by my simple response. Furthermore, you yourself said that you didn't know if anyone else had posted such a question. I was filling you on the back story of this debate that we've had over and over.

So once again ... calm the fuck down.

Actually, you didn't answer his question. You did lay out a nice strawman, though.

Also, he seems pretty calm to me.

Edit: Until the post above mine. All caps implies rage, man.

You're right that did upset me. However, it pisses me off when I have said nothing to imply I want to debate anyone but its just assumed before I've even said anything that I'm GOING to dammit cause he's one one of them christards.
But, I thank you for your polite comment and I thank all others that were nice enough to answer my question without assuming too much.

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(November 11, 2012 at 1:56 pm)Ryantology Wrote:

(November 11, 2012 at 11:10 am)Tnmusicman Wrote: I appreciate your comments thusfar but I would ask you how Gods omnipotence would have any bearing on one losing their faith.

If being 'saved' was such a transcendent and great experience, why would anyone ever want to reject it?

I'm not debating here . There was a question going on between two others and I asked this question of the man asking the first question.
For the purposes of this thread (except for thanking and answering questions that pertain to the original question ) I'm only interested in what I originally asked.
For those hell bent on assuming stuff ill go ahead and say regardless of your answer to my original question I assure you I won't ask follow up questions or attempt to make assumptions about why you are no longer identifying as a Christian.

(November 11, 2012 at 9:27 pm)Strongbad Wrote: So..."salvation", like a hot potato, can be handed back and forth? Christian dimwittery never ceases to astound me.

Oh right, because it's more logical to believe "once saved always saved"? Why do you feel the insistent need to throw insults all the time, is it a fundamental aspect of your Atheism?

(November 12, 2012 at 6:39 am)Daniel Wrote:

(November 11, 2012 at 9:27 pm)Strongbad Wrote: So..."salvation", like a hot potato, can be handed back and forth? Christian dimwittery never ceases to astound me.

Oh right, because it's more logical to believe "once saved always saved"?

Oh, I think I get it now... is it like a save file on a memory card becoming corrupt?

(November 12, 2012 at 6:39 am)Daniel Wrote: Oh right, because it's more logical to believe "once saved always saved"?

No, I'm sure its much more "logical" to believe that humans have "souls" that require "salvation", especially because it says so in an ancient book.

Quote: Why do you feel the insistent need to throw insults all the time, is it a fundamental aspect of your Atheism?

No, it is a response to smug, self-righteous, pious assholes constantly spewing christian nonsense. There is only one "fundamental aspect" of atheism: non-acceptance of the claims made by religious idiots.

(November 12, 2012 at 8:13 am)Strongbad Wrote: No, it is a response to smug, self-righteous, pious assholes constantly spewing christian nonsense. There is only one "fundamental aspect" of atheism: non-acceptance of the claims made by religious idiots.

Putting your head in the sand and claiming that no one can tell you anything unless they first bury their heads in the sand doesn't advance your argument.