Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study

[Dee Dee Ramone]

Now that does not say rape, you have to want it to say rape.

You are right. I prefer rape.

[FutureAndAHope]

You are right. I prefer rape.

I have some time off work today so I have plenty of time. Do you have any questions that you would like to ask me while I am about.

Also I am quite interested to know who you all are if you feel really adventurous tell me a little about yourselves.

[Dee Dee Ramone]

Well thank you.

I wonder what you think of science and how it conflicts with the bible.

How do you explain this?

[FutureAndAHope]

Well thank you.

I wonder what you think of science and how it conflicts with the bible.

How do you explain this?

Many years ago I did some study into scientific cases for creation, and scientific cases against evolution. The stuff that I looked into all seemed logical. I have heard there are some fairly stupid arguments out there for creation as well. But that happens all the the time with religion, you get genuine good people with good arguments, and you get some flaky people that just make very body else look bad, often they are delusional. I have had some moments in my own life where my arguments and thinking were not rational, so it is the pot calling the kettle black. But I think now I am fairly sane religiously speaking.

What I would suggest is if you have time look into the arguments for creation for yourself. I am not suggesting you are going to get some great revelation but at least you will see there are some good points for both sides.

I think all of science aside the one question that can not be answered logically is how do we exist. There has always been something. Existence has always been around. Nothing can't create something. You need elements to create a big bang. So it is beyond our human mind to comprehend, where did those first initial elements come from. Then, how can a God always have existed with all his atoms and matter. On the flip side, how can nothing create something. Both arguments when using human reasoning have no answer. Then there is the thought, did God evolve, and we were created. Who knows, all I know is we don't have all the answers.

By the way the reason I was so slow in responding is my wife came home, so I could not post.

[Something completely different]

60 pages? why dont you let it die?!

[Darkstar]

Now that does not say rape, you have to want it to say rape.

Is there even a hebrew word that directly translates to "rape"?

[Miss_Macabre]

Seems all spectators would rather hear evidence that islam is true, after failing to prove the negativity of Muhammad is true. So we move on.

The evidence that the Qur'an is the true word of Allah is in the following:

"Will they not then meditate upon the Qur'an? Had it been from anyone other than Allah they would surely have found therein much discrepancy."

Here we have test that demonstrates that there is no error in the Qur'an, showing the truthful nature of the Qur'an. If a person disagrees, then the individual can take up the challenge to find a discrepancy in the Qur’an and when the person discovers that there is no discrepancy, then the only logical conclusion that can be derived is that whomever the author of the Qur’an is, the individual is a truth teller and righteous because all of the content in the Qur’an is without error, indecency, and immorality. The question still remains as to who is the author? The Qur’an answers this question with the following test. The Qur’an states:

"And if you are in doubt as to what We have sent down to our servant, then produce a chapter like it, and call upon your helpers beside Allah if you are truthful."

Here we have a test which proves that it is not humanly possible to produce a chapter like the Qur'an and proves so by challenging all of those who doubt so to prove so by trying to produce a chapter like the Qur'an. For when trying to produce a chapter like the Qur'an, the skeptic will learn first-hand that such a thing is humanly impossible to do.

But before the a skeptic develops the common response of simply producing something in Arabic or claiming that the challenge is not valid because not being able to produce a play like Shakespeare does not mean that the play is from God so the same analogy applies to the Qur'an, let me further elaborate. The Qur'an, like any scripture, is inspiration. And like any scripture, its intent is to inspire people to follow its teaching. Thus the challenge is to produce something that is as inspirational as the Qur'an, for it is the inspiration of the Qur'an that is miraculous. And what is that miracle? The miracle is within the following:

"It is humanly impossible for a person/s to inspire enough people to follow him/her to conquer a nation by using humanmande speech/literature that goes against the likes and beliefs of those people."

This is the miracle of Muhammad. For the challenge proves that it is humanly impossible to use any speech or literature that goes against the majority and is invented by a person/s, to inspire enough followers amongst them to conquer a nation. The skeptic still disagrees? Then take the challenge and prove differently. Try using a speech or literature that does not agree with the likes of a majority of people that is an invention by a person/s. Then use that very same speech to inspire them to conquer a nation and see what happens. The challenge can even be simplified by asking a skeptic to just conquer the street that he or she lives on and see what happens. Yet the person will fail and fail miserably. No person will come close to achieving the challenge. Any individual, when taking the challenge, will have a first-hand eyewitness account from experience and observation that such an act is humanly impossible and that is when the person will learn the miracle of Muhammad. Why? The reason is because Muhammad used the Qur'an to inspire enough followers to conquer a nation in the same fashion. So if it is humanly impossible to use speech or literature that goes against the likes of the masses to inspire them to follow a person/s and conquer a nation, yet Muhammad used the Qur'an to do just that, then what does that mean? That means that the Qur'an that Muhammad used is not the invention of any human but must come from a higher power and authority greater than humans, and that is Allah. Do the skeptics still disagree? Then take the challenge and prove differently. When the challengers fail, because they will, this will help to demonstrate that the Qur’an is of divine origin as proven by the scientific method itself because it provides a hands-on eyewitness account that producing something like the Qur’an is humanly impossible. If you read this, and you yourself disagrees, then take the challenge and prove differently.

Hitler did it. I suppose that means Mien Kampf is the divinely inspired word of god?

[KichigaiNeko]

Now that does not say rape, you have to want it to say rape.

Is there even a hebrew word that directly translates to "rape"?

Google translate only gives

תאנוס = means Thanos in English. ? Dafaq?

Don't know if that is helpful though

[Zen Badger]

Well thank you.

I wonder what you think of science and how it conflicts with the bible.

How do you explain this?

Many years ago I did some study into scientific cases for creation, and scientific cases against evolution. The stuff that I looked into all seemed logical. I have heard there are some fairly stupid arguments out there for creation as well. But that happens all the the time with religion, you get genuine good people with good arguments, and you get some flaky people that just make very body else look bad, often they are delusional. I have had some moments in my own life where my arguments and thinking were not rational, so it is the pot calling the kettle black. But I think now I am fairly sane religiously speaking.

What I would suggest is if you have time look into the arguments for creation for yourself. I am not suggesting you are going to get some great revelation but at least you will see there are some good points for both sides.

I think all of science aside the one question that can not be answered logically is how do we exist. There has always been something. Existence has always been around. Nothing can't create something. You need elements to create a big bang. So it is beyond our human mind to comprehend, where did those first initial elements come from. Then, how can a God always have existed with all his atoms and matter. On the flip side, how can nothing create something. Both arguments when using human reasoning have no answer. Then there is the thought, did God evolve, and we were created. Who knows, all I know is we don't have all the answers.

By the way the reason I was so slow in responding is my wife came home, so I could not post.

Elements were created AFTER the big bang occurred.
Please read up on some science before you try to debunk something you don't understand.
Also, if something can't come from nothing, from whence did your god come.
And don't say he's always existed, because A/you can't prove that and B/ the same claim can then be made for the universe.
And we can prove the universe exists.

[Brian37]

Well thank you.

I wonder what you think of science and how it conflicts with the bible.

How do you explain this?

Many years ago I did some study into scientific cases for creation, and scientific cases against evolution. The stuff that I looked into all seemed logical. I have heard there are some fairly stupid arguments out there for creation as well. But that happens all the the time with religion, you get genuine good people with good arguments, and you get some flaky people that just make very body else look bad, often they are delusional. I have had some moments in my own life where my arguments and thinking were not rational, so it is the pot calling the kettle black. But I think now I am fairly sane religiously speaking.

What I would suggest is if you have time look into the arguments for creation for yourself. I am not suggesting you are going to get some great revelation but at least you will see there are some good points for both sides.

I think all of science aside the one question that can not be answered logically is how do we exist. There has always been something. Existence has always been around. Nothing can't create something. You need elements to create a big bang. So it is beyond our human mind to comprehend, where did those first initial elements come from. Then, how can a God always have existed with all his atoms and matter. On the flip side, how can nothing create something. Both arguments when using human reasoning have no answer. Then there is the thought, did God evolve, and we were created. Who knows, all I know is we don't have all the answers.

By the way the reason I was so slow in responding is my wife came home, so I could not post.

Something vs nothing is what you get trapped in as a distraction to the real issue.

A GOD IS NOT REQUIRED no matter if the universe came from something or nothing, anymore than we can determine which molicule of moisture off the African coast is the trigger of a hurricane. A hurricane does not need an ocean god to happen.

CONDITIONS not a who, are what lead to our universe, much like spring leads to fall and fall to winter and winter to spring and spring to summer.

NOTHING in our universe needs any man made superstition to explain it. And what we dont currently know will never be solved by inserting ancient myths and non existent magical beings into it.

FYI there are no scientific arguments against evolution. There are idiots who don't like evolution because it conflicts with their self delusions and will come up with elaborate tripe. EVOLUTION is as much a fact as gravity.

The only reason god belief persists is because humans do not understand their own psychology in that perceptions are notoriously flawed and they invent gods to give themselves false comfort.

People like religion and god claims because reality isn't sexy enough for them.