Majority of Americans think the GOP is too extreme

[Jackie]

Those small paychecks mean consumers are speding less, causing the economy to falter, and quite likey, it would create a new recession even though wer're still crawling out of the last.

Compared to Europe, the US is booming.

Yea the top 1 percent.

WHEN I started the job I have now, I was getting 5 days a week EVEN in the slow fall and winter in a resort town. Now during the slow periods I am lucky if I get 3 days a week.

Yea it is booming, for my boss. He is making more now than the prior owners he bought it from.

[Polaris]

I think the Democrats are much too extreme, acting pretty much like the Fox News Republicans under Bush....I don't even listen or care what the Republicans say these days.

[Jackie]

I think the Democrats are much too extreme, acting pretty much like the Fox News Republicans under Bush....I don't even listen or care what the Republicans say these days.

How are democrats extreme? That they want livable wages? Or that they want health care so that someone does not have to chose between rent or mortgage and doctor bills or food? Or that they don't want our streets to look like a gunfight between Wyat Erp and Dirty Harry and Tony Montana? Or that they think a woman's vagina is not property of the U.S. government? Or that democrats don't think gays are a sub species? Or that they don't think GE or EXXON need billions in tax cuts?

[Polaris]

The fact they have propped Wall Street up, continued in the mistreatment of POWs, murdered thousands of civilians including children in drone strikes, have been determined to aid in the dissolution of governments which have caused thousands of civilians deaths, deported more immigrants than ever before, let the insurance industry further undermine healthcare, and undermined environmental regulations just to secure more favorable trading with China.

In California where I live, they have additionally made extreme cuts to social programs and education, which already ranks amongst the worst in the nation.

You may be fine with settling for less than what we deserve, but I'm not and I will not settle for the the conservative horseshit the Democrats think they can slip past us.

[cratehorus]

The fact they have propped Wall Street up, continued in the mistreatment of POWs, murdered thousands of civilians including children in drone strikes, have been determined to aid in the dissolution of governments which have caused thousands of civilians deaths, deported more immigrants than ever before, let the insurance industry further undermine healthcare, and undermined environmental regulations just to secure more favorable trading with China.

don't republicans campaign on doing those things? Isn't that like blaming republicans for taxing the rich?

[TaraJo]

The fact they have propped Wall Street up, continued in the mistreatment of POWs, murdered thousands of civilians including children in drone strikes, have been determined to aid in the dissolution of governments which have caused thousands of civilians deaths, deported more immigrants than ever before, let the insurance industry further undermine healthcare, and undermined environmental regulations just to secure more favorable trading with China.

In California where I live, they have additionally made extreme cuts to social programs and education, which already ranks amongst the worst in the nation.

You may be fine with settling for less than what we deserve, but I'm not and I will not settle for the the conservative horseshit the Democrats think they can slip past us.

As fucked up as the Democratic party may be, how do you think this would compare to what the Republicans would do if given half a chance? Do we need to do a comparision of 8 years under Democrat Clinton vs. 8 years under Republican Bush?

The Democrats have gotten more conservative, I'll give you that. Clinton's strategy was to maintain the base Democrat positions but adopt a few popular Republican positions. Obama has tried to do this as well, but the Republican party has gotten so extreme that unless you're as batshit crazy they are, they scream "Socialist!"

[Polaris]

The fact they have propped Wall Street up, continued in the mistreatment of POWs, murdered thousands of civilians including children in drone strikes, have been determined to aid in the dissolution of governments which have caused thousands of civilians deaths, deported more immigrants than ever before, let the insurance industry further undermine healthcare, and undermined environmental regulations just to secure more favorable trading with China.

don't republicans campaign on doing those things? Isn't that like blaming republicans for taxing the rich?

That's what is so infuriating: the Democrats have been adopting failed GOP policy and passing it off as their own. I doubt even the conservatives' much vaunted Reagan would fit in with this new wave of conservatism infesting the Democrats.

Tara, you do know that Clinton is the President responsible for the failure of the economy, right? He let the Republicans get their way by signing their BS and we've suffered for it. The deficit reduced under Bush because of it, but it was not sustainable due to deregulating the economy.

Major fault for Bush that Obama did not also do in relation to the economy was the Iraq War. It did not affect the economic downturn, but used up resources that otherwise may have been available to get people back on their feet.

[CapnAwesome]

I really hate statements like that. Are you actually comparin us to places like Somalia or Ethopia and saying "We aren't really poor! Look at them!" It's like pointing to nations like Saudi Arabia or Iran and saying "Religion doesn't really have influence over our government! Look at them!" Why don't we shoot for something better than 'bottom of the barrel.'

You know the difference? The middle class here can afford to have less money. People who don't think so are just used to their comfortable lives. Well we are wracking up debt that is going to ruin the whole country. Who honestly thinks this debt is sustainable? This fiscal cliff is just a propaganda term used to force an agenda. Hey, I'm all for taxing the rich more, and that's exactly what's going to happen with the 'fiscal cliff'. Also there is a lot in the world inbetween Somalia and the US.

[Aractus]

This fiscal cliff is just a propaganda term used to force an agenda.

Absolutely, it sounds like a rehash of Reaganomics.

[TaraJo]