All Hail the Second Amendment

[Violet]

Cleaning a rifle with a round chambered while pointing it at the stomach of his son was he? It'd take a hell of a lawyer to sell me on that one.

I bet I could do it!

[Brian37]

Black teen thugs, huh dickhead. I knew you were a racist motherfucker.

Try this on for size.

Nice white people killing their own kids.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/340430

Yeah, that's what I said, pecker breath, Black teen thugs. Crotchety old white leftist dude...nothing racist about it. Most homicides of black teens are committed by other black teens.

I'll be damned! Look what I found. Try this on for size...

Nice black parents killing their own children....

Banita Jacks. In January 2008, this mother of four was found in her Washington, D.C., home with the decomposing bodies of her four daughters....Apparently the younger ones had been starved, strangled and at least one of them was beaten, while the eldest was stabbed.

http://www.bvblackspin.com/2009/07/16/mo...-children/

SO? That is part of the lack of spending on mental health and health care in general. Still yet another bullshit argument "other shit happens so lets do nothing about this shit".

This is stupid, you are falsely accusing us of "A car accedent happend so lets ban all cars".

Yes people do get murdered with things other than guns. But that does not mean we should not reduce gun death. And on a bigger picture all violence is directly related to economic conditions. Less stability more domestic abuse and gang violence. More economic stability less crime.

[A Theist]

Yeah, that's what I said, pecker breath, Black teen thugs. Crotchety old white leftist dude...nothing racist about it. Most homicides of black teens are committed by other black teens.

I'll be damned! Look what I found. Try this on for size...

Nice black parents killing their own children....

http://www.bvblackspin.com/2009/07/16/mo...-children/

SO? That is part of the lack of spending on mental health and health care in general. Still yet another bullshit argument "other shit happens so lets do nothing about this shit".

This is stupid, you are falsely accusing us of "A car accedent happend so lets ban all cars".

Yes people do get murdered with things other than guns. But that does not mean we should not reduce gun death. And on a bigger picture all violence is directly related to economic conditions. Less stability more domestic abuse and gang violence. More economic stability less crime.

And on a bigger picture all violence is directly related to economic conditions.

No. All violence is because of a lack of self control...poor economic conditions and domestic abuse, though they are realities, have been overplayed in studies and in courtrooms as an easy excuse to justify violence and to avoid personal responsibility.

[Something completely different]

A lot less credible because a paraplegic used a gun to defend himself against an armed intruder...how is that less credible?.....No. All the craze these days is usually black teen thugs shooting and killing other black teen thugs, (including innocent black bystanders)...

[A Theist]

credible because a paraplegic used a gun to defend himself against an armed intruder...how is that less credible?.....No. All the craze these days is usually black teen thugs shooting and killing other black teen thugs, (including innocent black bystanders)...

Hey Germ, looks like some of my comment is missing from your quoted response...not to mention that you overlooked the context for which it was intended...here, I fixed it for you. I'm sure you weren't trying to be dishonest, were you Germy.

TheSteelGeneral Wrote: "Paraplegic shot, killed armed intruder" seems a lot less credible than "landlord shoots tennants". That last one is all the craze these days, angry white males shooting and killing (usually black) teens. At some points teens are gonna shoot back.

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A Theist Wrote: A lot less credible because a paraplegic used a gun to defend himself against an armed intruder...how is that less credible?.....No. All the craze these days is usually black teen thugs shooting and killing other black teen thugs, (including innocent black bystanders)...

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indeed. I shall edit for I havent noticed. Thank you for the notification. It was not intentionaly kept out.

[Brian37]

SO? That is part of the lack of spending on mental health and health care in general. Still yet another bullshit argument "other shit happens so lets do nothing about this shit".

This is stupid, you are falsely accusing us of "A car accedent happend so lets ban all cars".

Yes people do get murdered with things other than guns. But that does not mean we should not reduce gun death. And on a bigger picture all violence is directly related to economic conditions. Less stability more domestic abuse and gang violence. More economic stability less crime.

And on a bigger picture all violence is directly related to economic conditions.

No. All violence is because of a lack of self control...poor economic conditions and domestic abuse, though they are realities, have been overplayed in studies and in courtrooms as an easy excuse to justify violence and to avoid personal responsibility.

Stop it. Everything is NOT about self control. The conditions around you in your life have an affect on you. No one knows exactly what they will do until actually in a given situation.

You can control certain things in your life, but not everything all the time, especially not other people or the entire economy. To claim other people cannot have an affect on you is patently absurd.

You have a very narcissistic Ayan Rand view of the world and it is as utopian as as any political party or religion.

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@A Theist

Crime statistics prove that poverty, political conflict, ethnical conflict, secterian conflict and the drug war are the main cause of crime.



To deny this is to lie to oneself.

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oh yes and I would like to add this as something very informative about a recent subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1-5wz0gbGI

[Brian37]

@A Theist

Crime statistics prove that poverty, political conflict, ethnical conflict, secterian conflict and the drug war are the main cause of crime.



To deny this is to lie to oneself.

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oh yes and I would like to add this as something very informative about a recent subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1-5wz0gbGI

She had me up until "churches". You want to add dungeons and dragons myth to mental illness? Aren't our non mentally ill religious political nutters bad enough?

I agree however that there is too much of a stigma on mental health issues and not enough support, public or private, for people suffering addiction, abuse, PTSD, depression, severe depression, and all other mental illness.

[Ethan1581]

http://www.wxow.com/story/20468960/maine...ge-tenants

Paraplegic shot, killed armed intruder.....JOHNSTOWN, Ohio, July 23 (UPI)...John Mutter, 33, was asleep in his Johnstown home and awoke to find a man pointing a gun at him early Sunday, The Columbus (Ohio) Dispatch reported.

Mutter, who lost the use of his legs after a car crash about a year ago,..."He kept a weapon nearby because he lived alone, and it was the only way to protect himself,"

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/07/2...343070564/

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/japan
only 11 people were killed by firearms in Japan. Why? They have very strict laws on firearms.

2008: 11
2002: 47
2001: 56
1997: 34
1996: 36
1995: 42

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states
9,484 killed by firearms in 2008.

2009: 9,146
2008: 9,484
2007: 10,129
2006: 10,225
2005: 10,158
2004: 9,385
2003: 9,659
2002: 9,369
2001: 8,890
1999: 8,259
1998: 9,257

Well, what do you think now?