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All Hail the Second Amendment
RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
(December 12, 2018 at 5:38 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
(December 11, 2018 at 6:53 pm)Amarok Wrote: Nope but I also trust a bunch of heavily armed nut jobs I do trust the idea we can prevent dictatorships without them 
How? Hitler was democratically elected.
Hitler was no democratically elected and the best idea is lawful vigilance against similar men nor did a legion of armed militia's prevent his rise
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
(December 12, 2018 at 6:16 am)Amarok Wrote:
(December 12, 2018 at 5:38 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: How? Hitler was democratically elected.
Hitler was no democratically elected and the best idea is  lawful vigilance against similar men   nor did a legion of armed militia's prevent his rise

Hitler WAS democratically elected, dumbass. 

During the Weimar Republic in Germany elections placed a political party in power, not individuals. In January 1933 Hitler's Party won with 43% of the vote. Hitler was appointed as Chancellor as a result of that election. 

Corrections:
1. Hitler was appointed after an earlier election. I went back and researched this again after Gawdzilla Sama's post #3763. There were several elections during 1932 and 1933. Gawdzilla Sama's timeline is correct in that Hitlers party won in a 1932 election and he was appointed in 1932. All together there were 3 elections. Two were in 1932. 1933 was the last of the series of elections which cemented Hitler's power. This was the election which ousted the communists and the NSDAP won by 43.9%.
2. Clarification - No matter how you look at it, if you have been elected twice to the same office as a result of 3 elections in 12 months, you have been democratically elected.

(Side note - Thanks to Gawdzilla Sama. I got to learn something new this morning, and that's always fun!)


There was also a law, Ermächtigungsgesetz (The Enabling Act), that passed (with such an overwhelming majority that it was enacted without being ratified) in March 1933 that put the NSDAP in full power because it allowed the rightly elected political party to govern without the consent of the German Parliament. Because of that law, the NSDAP enjoyed total government power.

In 1933 the rhetoric of the NSDAP was really no worse than any other political party. It was just presented differently. The party won the election. Hitler wasn't appointed Chancellor on the promise that he would start the Holocaust. However, as he began to gear up for war and started placing Jews in ghettos, he had the support of most German citizens. The majority of Germans continued to support him and the war until 1943-44ish. It wasn't until late 1944/early 1945 that the military became disillusioned with him.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
(December 12, 2018 at 5:38 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
(December 11, 2018 at 6:53 pm)Amarok Wrote: Nope but I also trust a bunch of heavily armed nut jobs I do trust the idea we can prevent dictatorships without them 
How? Hitler was democratically elected.

Not exactly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_Germa...l_election
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
Wrong in 1932 Hitler had his  ass handed to him by Hindenburg who appointed him chancellor through back door politics then  when the 1933 election rolled around the Reichstag fire(which Hitler may have had a hand in) and the Reichstag fire Decree suggested by Hitler himself who then used it to jail and suppress his opponents  his opponents and the Brown shirts and the SS went on campaign of terror and "monitor vote" even then he still had to rely on a coalition with the DNVP and then of course came the enabling act 

If you honestly think that is democracy particularly the later bit then you are insane and 


As for the Jews Hitler made it pretty damn clear he hated the Jews and the Nazi's pretty damn clear they hated the Jews 

And yet no were to be seen were these armed heroes ?

(December 12, 2018 at 7:30 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(December 12, 2018 at 5:38 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: How? Hitler was democratically elected.

Not exactly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_Germa...l_election
He lost the first election then was appointed by the guy he lost too . Then used a fire he may very well have started too suggest a law to suppress and jail his opponents and he still lost and had to join another coalition 

Anyone who thinks that fair or free democracy is nuts
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
Von Papen told Hindenburg that he could "handle the little Bohemian corporal". The President then called Hitler and invited him to form a government.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
(December 12, 2018 at 8:24 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Von Papen told Hindenburg that he could "handle the little Bohemian corporal". The President then called Hitler and invited him to form a government.
Right sorry got that detail wrong. Still it really doesn't alter much anyone who calls rise democratic is simply off
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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A gun debate that devolves into a "was Hitler democratically elected" shitpile..



Howwww original.



Panic
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
(December 12, 2018 at 8:32 am)onlinebiker Wrote: A gun debate that devolves into a "was Hitler democratically elected" shitpile..



Howwww original.



Panic

And the topic of Hitler was introduced by a pro-gun person.  How original.

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‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
(December 12, 2018 at 8:32 am)onlinebiker Wrote: A gun debate that devolves into a "was Hitler democratically elected" shitpile..



Howwww original.



Panic
Hey if you wanna blame someone  it was Dmitry1983 who made the claim i simply answered it
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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Ya'll didn't expect coherence, did you?
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