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RE: Annoying Atheist Arguments
February 2, 2013 at 8:50 am
(February 1, 2013 at 10:49 pm)genkaus Wrote: Do you even bother to learn the meanings of words before you use them? I don't know which dictionary you've been using, but I go by this one:
assumption:
Quote:as·sump·tion
[uh-suhmp-shuhn]
noun
1.
something taken for granted; a supposition: a correct assumption. Synonyms: presupposition; hypothesis, conjecture, guess, postulate, theory.
2.
the act of taking for granted or supposing. Synonyms: presumption; presupposition.
3.
the act of taking to or upon oneself. Synonyms: acceptance, shouldering.
4.
the act of taking possession of something: the assumption of power. Synonyms: seizure, appropriation, usurpation, arrogation.
5.
arrogance; presumption. Synonyms: presumptuousness; effrontery, forwardness, gall.
Belief:
Quote:be·lief
[bih-leef]
noun
1.
something believed; an opinion or conviction: a belief that the earth is flat.
2.
confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof: a statement unworthy of belief.
3.
confidence; faith; trust: a child's belief in his parents.
4.
a religious tenet or tenets; religious creed or faith: the Christian belief.
I fail to see that they are the same...
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RE: Annoying Atheist Arguments
February 2, 2013 at 12:29 pm
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(February 2, 2013 at 1:50 am)Question Mark Wrote: And that knowledge is founded in experience. You've experienced falling, and it's hurt each time. Falling again, will likely hurt again.
All I'm saying is that if someone hasn't ever fallen, they wouldn't know. They'd only have a belief based on evidence.
Yes, they would.
(February 2, 2013 at 8:50 am)pocaracas Wrote: I don't know which dictionary you've been using, but I go by this one:
assumption:
Quote:as·sump·tion
[uh-suhmp-shuhn]
noun
1.
something taken for granted; a supposition: a correct assumption. Synonyms: presupposition; hypothesis, conjecture, guess, postulate, theory.
2.
the act of taking for granted or supposing. Synonyms: presumption; presupposition.
3.
the act of taking to or upon oneself. Synonyms: acceptance, shouldering.
4.
the act of taking possession of something: the assumption of power. Synonyms: seizure, appropriation, usurpation, arrogation.
5.
arrogance; presumption. Synonyms: presumptuousness; effrontery, forwardness, gall.
Belief:
Quote:be·lief
[bih-leef]
noun
1.
something believed; an opinion or conviction: a belief that the earth is flat.
2.
confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof: a statement unworthy of belief.
3.
confidence; faith; trust: a child's belief in his parents.
4.
a religious tenet or tenets; religious creed or faith: the Christian belief.
I fail to see that they are the same...
Don't simply compare words, try and understand the meaning behind them.
The first definition of assumption is "something taken for granted". In our discussion, "something" refers to a statement, such as "there is no god" and "granted" would then refer to taken to be true without looking for proof.
Belief, means something believed, that is, to take a statement as true. Do you still not see how they are same?
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RE: Annoying Atheist Arguments
February 2, 2013 at 1:45 pm
(February 2, 2013 at 12:29 pm)genkaus Wrote: The first definition of assumption is "something taken for granted". In our discussion, "something" refers to a statement, such as "there is no god" and "granted" would then refer to taken to be true without looking for proof.
Belief, means something believed, that is, to take a statement as true. Do you still not see how they are same? No, sorry.
An assumption has no truth value attributed. It just is.
A belief does.
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RE: Annoying Atheist Arguments
February 3, 2013 at 8:38 am
(February 2, 2013 at 1:45 pm)pocaracas Wrote: No, sorry.
An assumption has no truth value attributed. It just is.
A belief does.
What are you talking about? To assume something means to take it as true.
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