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RE: Atheist "church" in London.
February 4, 2013 at 8:11 pm
They should at least make it not boring so its better than mosques and churches, put an xbox in there with call of duty, and other games consoles.
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RE: Atheist "church" in London.
February 4, 2013 at 8:18 pm
I'd feel a bit more at ease with the atheists having their get together in the church, if they set the fucker on fire on their way out.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
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RE: Atheist "church" in London.
February 4, 2013 at 8:23 pm
Not sure about that, some of those buildings are pretty nice architecturally, especially the older ones. Merely defiling it could be enough. All the crap inside, though, fair game.
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RE: Atheist "church" in London.
February 4, 2013 at 9:09 pm
My reason for disliking this is more pragmatism. One of my most vehement arguments against religion is that it is shoved in my face no matter what, in the form of music on the radio [and no, I can't turn it off, my work has the radio set to the country station, nuff said] and churches and giant icons of symbology at the side of the road so that I can't escape having to have it forced on me no matter where I turn. My argument has been that atheists don't do this kind of thing and that that's why religious people whining about atheists being dicks is so utterly infuriating and condescending.
If I'm really about to start seeing atheist churches, wherein atheism becomes a religion, this will also completely nullify my argument, and the argument of so many other atheists, that atheism is not a religion.
I am not mad. Not yet. Nor am I particularly ready to start wailing in defeat and surrendering my arguments. Yet. But I am now worried about the snowball effect which may or may not come to be. But if it does, I'm going to find myself devoid of a particularly effective set of arguments in defense of atheists, which will not please me in the least.
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RE: Atheist "church" in London.
February 5, 2013 at 3:43 am
Creed, your reasoning is precisely why I haven't followed through with my ideas. I grew up in a religious household, mostly in the bible belt. I hate nothing more than when atheism is compared with religion. Grrrrr.
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RE: Atheist "church" in London.
February 5, 2013 at 9:57 am
(February 4, 2013 at 9:09 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: My argument has been that atheists don't do this kind of thing
What's this then? Eh?
(February 4, 2013 at 9:09 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: If I'm really about to start seeing atheist churches, wherein atheism becomes a religion, this will also completely nullify my argument, and the argument of so many other atheists, that atheism is not a religion.
Perhaps they ought to be called Temples of Reason.
(February 4, 2013 at 9:09 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: I am not mad. Not yet. Nor am I particularly ready to start wailing in defeat and surrendering my arguments. Yet. But I am now worried about the snowball effect which may or may not come to be. But if it does, I'm going to find myself devoid of a particularly effective set of arguments in defense of atheists, which will not please me in the least.
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RE: Atheist "church" in London.
February 5, 2013 at 8:53 pm
(This post was last modified: February 5, 2013 at 9:04 pm by Angrboda.)
(February 4, 2013 at 5:58 pm)Shell B Wrote: (February 4, 2013 at 2:27 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: Pubs also perform just as good a social function. As do many other clubs and places where you can meet people.
I hate pubs and clubs. I don't drink and I don't like douchebags. I would like a place to meet up with people like me who aren't drinking, dancing or otherwise acting like their fulfillment in life amounts to feeling fucked up and getting uncomfortably close to strangers who are saying vapid things to impress each other.
This is all well and good, but it does make it something of a mystery as to why you're still here at AF.
I attended a UU church for a time, but I just couldn't hang with the "getting up at 10:30 in the morning on the weekend" part of it. It's made me think once or twice about hitting up one of those Christian mega churches with the evening services. And, for no particular reason, I know probably more than I should about the financial aspects of running UU churches, with the emphasis on membership (defined as monetary contributors) and the constant drive to increase membership (for the obvious and not so obvious reasons). I rather liked the UU church I attended, although some things — like singing psalms — kinda weirded me out. I'm told the UU church I made my home was the most atheistic in the city. That may have influenced my choice (I mean beyond it also being only five minutes from home).
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RE: Atheist "church" in London.
February 5, 2013 at 11:36 pm
I would actually like to go to something like this
my disbelief does feel a lot like belief sometimes, in the way that I'm proud of it, and I like to meet and talk other people who feel the same way.
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RE: Atheist "church" in London.
February 6, 2013 at 1:51 pm
If religion/belief in gods didn't exist then atheism wouldn't exist either. You'll have to think about one.
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RE: Atheist "church" in London.
February 6, 2013 at 4:48 pm
Starbucks is a good non-alcoholic place to gather... If you need that kind of thing.
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