Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: April 28, 2024, 1:31 am
Atheist Forums › Community › Philosophy v
When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Thread Modes
When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
Nine Offline
Bee-ad
****
Religious Views: Queen Bee
Posts: 4345
Threads: 43
Joined: February 21, 2012
Reputation: 64
#11
RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
February 6, 2013 at 4:16 pm
(February 6, 2013 at 4:10 pm)Annik Wrote: We didn't out-think them, we out-fucked them.

And maybe out-fought and ate them too

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/m...es-journal
Find
Reply
Zone Offline
Member
***
Religious Views: Agnostic Atheist
Posts: 544
Threads: 9
Joined: January 7, 2013
Reputation: 3
#12
RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
February 6, 2013 at 4:21 pm
From the first homo species I think (either homo hablis or homo erectus), those would be the first humans. Australopithecus would have essentially been like a chimp on two legs. Some people would say the other great apes are people as well and ought to be given human rights but I'm not sure I agree.
Find
Reply
paulpablo Offline
Senior Member
****
Religious Views: there probably is no god
Posts: 5983
Threads: 249
Joined: January 2, 2013
Reputation: 30
#13
RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
February 6, 2013 at 4:58 pm
If a cow could talk it would probably generate a lot of sympathy, if a polar bear could talk though i think there would be a drop in the charity that people are putting forward for them, i think they would be mainly thinking "FUCK I WANT TO RIP OUT A BABY SEALS HEART AND EAT IT AND SPLASH AROUND IN THE BLOOD"
Its probably better for their cause that they just show video footage of them looking confused on a melting ice block


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

Impersonation is treason.





Find
Reply
Zone Offline
Member
***
Religious Views: Agnostic Atheist
Posts: 544
Threads: 9
Joined: January 7, 2013
Reputation: 3
#14
RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
February 6, 2013 at 5:00 pm (This post was last modified: February 6, 2013 at 5:00 pm by Zone.)
We did interbreed with neanderthals, humans outside of Africa have up to 4% neanderthal DNA. But I don't think they were really that much different from us.
Find
Reply
Violet Offline
Buffalo and Bee Lover
*****
Religious Views: There are beeautiful cloud buffalo in the sky.
Posts: 15755
Threads: 194
Joined: May 15, 2009
Reputation: 145
#15
RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
February 6, 2013 at 5:03 pm
(February 6, 2013 at 4:58 pm)paulpablo Wrote: If a cow could talk it would probably generate a lot of sympathy, if a polar bear could talk though i think there would be a drop in the charity that people are putting forward for them, i think they would be mainly thinking "FUCK I WANT TO RIP OUT A BABY SEALS HEART AND EAT IT AND SPLASH AROUND IN THE BLOOD"
Its probably better for their cause that they just show video footage of them looking confused on a melting ice block

It's all about the marketing.

Bears are pretty sick, though... ever smelled fresh bear shit? My own dog wouldn't eat it. Angel
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
Find
Reply
Nine Offline
Bee-ad
****
Religious Views: Queen Bee
Posts: 4345
Threads: 43
Joined: February 21, 2012
Reputation: 64
#16
RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
February 6, 2013 at 5:06 pm
Bears are cute. Especially polar bears.





Do polar bears shit in the pool?
Find
Reply
Violet Offline
Buffalo and Bee Lover
*****
Religious Views: There are beeautiful cloud buffalo in the sky.
Posts: 15755
Threads: 194
Joined: May 15, 2009
Reputation: 145
#17
RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
February 6, 2013 at 5:10 pm
Any animal type can be domesticated. Not that every animal of that type can be, of course Smile
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
Find
Reply
Minimalist Offline Donators
Go Blow Jesus Out Your Ass
*****
Religious Views: Fuck It
Posts: 69248
Threads: 3759
Joined: August 2, 2009
Reputation: 259
#18
RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
February 6, 2013 at 5:15 pm
Quote:When you get right down to it, human beings are nothing more than ordinary jungle beasts. Savages. No different from the Cro Magnon people who lived twenty five thousand years ago. No different. Our DNA hasn't changed substantially in a hundred thousand years. We're still operating out of the lower brain. The reptilian brain. Fight or flight. Kill or be killed. We like to think we've evolved and advanced because we can build a computer, fly an airplane, travel underwater, we can write a sonnet, paint a painting, compose an opera. But you know something? We're barely out of the jungle on this planet. Barely out of the fucking jungle. What we are, is semi-civilized beasts, with baseball caps and automatic weapons.

-- George Carlin
Find
Reply
Nine Offline
Bee-ad
****
Religious Views: Queen Bee
Posts: 4345
Threads: 43
Joined: February 21, 2012
Reputation: 64
#19
RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
February 6, 2013 at 5:16 pm
(February 6, 2013 at 5:10 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: Any animal type can be domesticated. Not that every animal of that type can be, of course Smile

Like humans.



Find
Reply
Annik Offline
Anla'Shok
****
Religious Views: We live for The One, we die for The One.
Posts: 2694
Threads: 42
Joined: May 6, 2012
Reputation: 43
#20
RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
February 6, 2013 at 5:17 pm
(February 6, 2013 at 4:16 pm)Insanity x Wrote: And maybe out-fought and ate them too

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/m...es-journal

I've seen this story before. This could've been a factor in it as well.
[Image: SigBarSping_zpscd7e35e1.png]
Find
Reply


Atheist Forums › Community › Philosophy v
When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  As a nonreligious person, where do you get your moral guidance? Gentle_Idiot 79 6784 November 26, 2022 at 10:27 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Name one objectively bad person ErGingerbreadMandude 57 14932 October 16, 2017 at 3:47 am
Last Post: Ignorant
  Is it possible for a person to be morally neutral? Der/die AtheistIn 10 2047 October 15, 2017 at 7:14 pm
Last Post: brewer
  Pressuposition Apologetics Cross Examined Soldat Du Christ 48 5240 October 19, 2016 at 1:27 pm
Last Post: Mister Agenda
  Would you kill the person who is about to kill? brewer 63 8167 December 10, 2015 at 2:07 pm
Last Post: Whateverist
Smile a bad person Sappho 30 5024 December 8, 2015 at 7:59 pm
Last Post: Neo-Scholastic
  In regard to the rational person's choice Mohammed1212 23 6056 April 27, 2015 at 5:44 pm
Last Post: noctalla
  What makes a person bad? Losty 53 13098 December 3, 2014 at 6:38 pm
Last Post: Losty
  what is a good person? shortbusgangsta3 26 9700 June 29, 2014 at 8:00 pm
Last Post: Thumpalumpacus
  Animal Slavery John V 109 13795 April 3, 2014 at 7:02 pm
Last Post: John V



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)