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Hilarious quotes by theists.
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 (August 30, 2009 at 4:33 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: His work here was done. The seed of logic was planted. It's just a question of the penny dropping nowHe dropped the seed of assumption, and without anything else, nothing grows out of it. It remains an assumption forever unless something comes along to back it up with evidence. If the TAG argument really proves God's existence, and also proves that Christianity is true, then he did a very bad job of showing it. 
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Card carrying member of NO MA'AM  Religious Views: Asuperstitionist. Silly theists, myths are for kids! (September 1, 2009 at 6:59 pm)dry land fish Wrote: If your job doesn't pay enough then you pay a lot of money to get an education to get a job that does pay enough Not a theist, I know, but we should not be discriminatory here.
I used to tell a lot of religious jokes. Not any more, I'm a registered sects offender.
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Indeed, like all seeds, it needs water and nutrients to grow... without the evidence as nutrients, and the logic as water... the seed of assumption can never sprout.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
The TAG was subsidiary to JP's point. He stated all along that the TAG was a logical conclusion given the premise, and worked for other premises. I don't know where you get the idea he was claiming anything from that.
Of course you cry evidence, that marginalist, baseless, philosophical assertion. Logic is the seed, and unrefuted it will grow inside you unchecked because you cannot refute it, and you'll implode. (well not the last bit  )
 (September 2, 2009 at 2:37 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The TAG was subsidiary to JP's point. He stated all along that the TAG was a logical conclusion given the premise, and worked for other premises. I don't know where you get the idea he was claiming anything from that. Fr0d0, please take your bum-fuckery of Jon Paul away from my thread  Here's one: "I don't have to "prove" anything. You see, I have this wonderful thing called "faith" and with that I have no need of proof. " (September 2, 2009 at 2:37 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The TAG was subsidiary to JP's point. He stated all along that the TAG was a logical conclusion given the premise, and worked for other premises. I don't know where you get the idea he was claiming anything from that.The premise was that knowledge, morality, and logic all exist. I accept that. The premise also stated that these things are transcendent. I don't accept that (there is no evidence for it). The conclusion was that the Christian God existed. That I don't accept at all because it is a massive jump from what the premise is, and there are plenty of other explanations for the existence of knowledge, morality, logic, etc.
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
The conclusion was dependent upon a Christian premise. JP was completely open about that.
You don't need 'proof' Luke, but you do need logic. LOL @ bum-fuckery 
Based on Christian Premise! That's the fucking problem. So he's basically telling a load of atheists that the conclusion makes sense given the Christian premise, and since it's a premise it doesn't need support? Hilarious!
Logic does fuck-all if it's fallacious logic! And logic that gives actual credence to belief=evidence, if the belief has no support it has no evidence, if it has no evidence then it's delusional. Error error, lack of evidence, lack of support for theisitic bullshit, try again theists! (September 2, 2009 at 2:58 pm)LukeMC Wrote: Here's one: Haha, who's that from? Or is that just a paraphrasing of fr0d0? Oh fuck...I think I might remember...is that possibly a direct fr0d0 quote? Hilarious! EvF
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
Shame you failed miserably to even grasp it Evie let alone get near to refuting it.
Yeah he was totally open about the TAG stuff. Read it and weep. Given the premise the conclusion is that there has to be a God. Take it or leave it, that's all it is saying.
There's no reason to take the premise though if it itself is not to be supported though, right?
There's no reason for me to believe there's anything to grasp in the first place if it all lacks support (evidence). EvF |
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