If ignorance is bliss...

[Ryantology]

I think you have said, as has everyone else that I've asked recently, that you agreed that humans are flawed.
The differences in our world views, are that mine is positive, having a belief that human flaws are overcome, and yours are negative, as you just put up with the flaws.

If it was my worldview to put up with human flaws, then I probably would not condemn religion and regressive politics as much as I do and my post count here would be like 13.

The difference in our worldview is that mine is an acceptance of reality and a desire to change the world for the better, while yours is a rejection of reality and a desire to forsake this world in exchange for heaven.

[fr0d0]

If it was my worldview to put up with human flaws, then I probably would not condemn religion and regressive politics as much as I do and my post count here would be like 13.

The difference in our worldview is that mine is an acceptance of reality and a desire to change the world for the better, while yours is a rejection of reality and a desire to forsake this world in exchange for heaven.

Always with the false assumptions Ryan. Proof that you're trying to avoid reality. You need to think it through a little. My world view fully accepts that reality is tough and actively seeks to redress the balance. I have reason to believe there's a point to that. Your stated position is that their isn't. Now tell me who should be more motivated?

[Cato]

My world view fully accepts that reality is tough and actively seeks to redress the balance.

Moose-fucking-cock! Humans don't need your 'world view' to accept the idea that 'reality is tough'. But wait, there's more. Your uniqe erudtion then allows you to bless us with this meanignless string of words: "actively seeks to redress the balance". Holy fucking masters of business or political science. Sounds impressive; means absolutely nothing.

[Ryantology]

Always with the false assumptions Ryan. Proof that you're trying to avoid reality. You need to think it through a little. My world view fully accepts that reality is tough and actively seeks to redress the balance. I have reason to believe there's a point to that. Your stated position is that their isn't. Now tell me who should be more motivated?

I think there's a point, it's just that the point isn't pleasing some supernatural dictator and reserving my seat in Heaven. The point is to learn, mature, create, improve and leave behind a world which is less violent and ignorant than the one into which we are born.

Relying on supernatural fantasy to 'redress the balance' sounds tilting at windmills to me.

[Zone]

For questions of whether God exists or not or whether there is an afterlife or not I would suggest that everyone are all ignorant either way. Though perhaps some are more ignorant than others, there are people who deny evolution happened for instance.

[CleanShavenJesus]

Religion (and commandments) are what provides one's moral standards. Ignorance is bliss in a non-believers case because they do not know about religion or the commandments. But, if you are aware of them, you should use them for yourself, not to please God, but for yourself. And if you are able to follow them, you will eventually be rewarded.

Ignorance is bliss, but not many atheists can follow that because they are aware of it all. Unless I count their lack of belief as ignorant, which I won't go into, because it is just rude.

That`s a pritty big judgement your making there?!

How do you know that I am ignorant, Because I am a non-believer?
And I reject gods moral values because of the good of sociaty, because gods laws are inferior and even in violation of mans common morals and laws.

I also reject religion because uncertainty - doesnt make me happy.

I do not know you are an ignorant prson, but when it comes to this subject, you are ignorant.

Man's law are just man's law. Made after God's law, because God is who created us. Without God, there would be no man-made laws. And even if you don't believe that, many man-made laws come from religion. You are in no position to address God as inferior to man.

[fr0d0]

For questions of whether God exists or not or whether there is an afterlife or not I would suggest that everyone are all ignorant either way. Though perhaps some are more ignorant than others, there are people who deny evolution happened for instance.

I would agree 100% my friend

[Zone]

Man's law are just man's law. Made after Zeus law, because Zeus is who created us. Without Zeus, there would be no man-made laws. And even if you don't believe that, many man-made laws come from religion. You are in no position to address Zeus as inferior to man.

That's just to give you an idea of what an atheist sees when when they read what you type.

[Cyberman]

Man's law are just man's law. Made after God's law, because God is who created us. Without God, there would be no man-made laws. And even if you don't believe that, many man-made laws come from religion. You are in no position to address God as inferior to man.

Religion ≠ "God". While it may indeed be the case that certain laws have their basis in religion, to say that by extension that means they come from a god is one hell of a stretch.

Personally, I would "address God as inferior to man" every time. In fact, I would go further and state that "God" is inferior to anything at all, being the least powerful entity ever invented; so powerless that anyone can make it say and do anything they want.

[Something completely different]

I do not know you are an ignorant prson, but when it comes to this subject, you are ignorant.

Man's law are just man's law. Made after God's law, because God is who created us. Without God, there would be no man-made laws. And even if you don't believe that, many man-made laws come from religion. You are in no position to address God as inferior to man.

Yes! Man`s laws are man`s laws and show me where god`s laws are represented in them!

Your god calls for homosexuals to be executed! Bad kids to be stoned! Allows daughters to be sold into slavery by their father!

These laws by your god are worthless and infirior towards those created by man! Like equal rights for women!!! And even if good created man - the laws under which I and you live, were created in defiance of his laws - and rightfully so!

I am in every possition to call out your god as infirior to me!!!

I dont treat women like cattle! condole slavery! went on genocide trip through the mid east! stoned children! condoled pedophilia and I am not a totalitarian!

I am a proud citizen of a Republic, founded on constitutional human values, a republic far more superior than the wicked theocracy your god intended for us!

If your god exists he is not woth following, since mankind has achieved and found greater moral truths than him. And If your god claims his totalitarian power, he deserves to be hunted down, destroyed or to be put on trial!