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RE: How can we be sure this is reality?
February 16, 2013 at 1:21 pm
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(February 15, 2013 at 8:47 pm)Tiberius Wrote: I've just given up trying to argue with him. People who think philosophy has somehow been replaced by science need to go and read a fucking dictionary...or maybe take a few college courses.
O we had this question in philosophy class and my professor has proven that philosophy is the mother of all science.  all hail philosophy.
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RE: How can we be sure this is reality?
February 16, 2013 at 2:16 pm
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RE: How can we be sure this is reality?
February 16, 2013 at 2:32 pm
I think Brian is confusing philosophy with philosophers. Those are two distict things.
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RE: How can we be sure this is reality?
February 16, 2013 at 6:32 pm
(February 16, 2013 at 2:32 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I think Brian is confusing philosophy with philosophers. Those are two distict things.
Not distinct when the philosopher is NAMED Philosophy!
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Not serious. Tiberius: you've done a fine job in my absence  I liked the bit about sound in particular, that's brilliant!
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RE: How can we be sure this is reality?
February 19, 2013 at 5:54 am
(February 14, 2013 at 2:00 pm)Phish Wrote: -is there any way we can prove that we aren't just sleeping and when we die we wake up.
-our entire universe could be a gigantic brain cell!
- how to be sure im not just imagining all this and all of things in this world are just part of my imagination?
and how do you go on living,such questions totally screwed me up
Does it matter?
The world you experience is only a construct in your mind interpreted and compiled from electrical impulses sent down your nervous system into the neural network of your brain. In this respect we all live in a virtual reality.
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RE: How can we be sure this is reality?
February 20, 2013 at 12:34 pm
(February 19, 2013 at 5:54 am)ManMachine Wrote: (February 14, 2013 at 2:00 pm)Phish Wrote: -is there any way we can prove that we aren't just sleeping and when we die we wake up.
-our entire universe could be a gigantic brain cell!
- how to be sure im not just imagining all this and all of things in this world are just part of my imagination?
and how do you go on living,such questions totally screwed me up
Does it matter?
The world you experience is only a construct in your mind interpreted and compiled from electrical impulses sent down your nervous system into the neural network of your brain. In this respect we all live in a virtual reality.
MM
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RE: How can we be sure this is reality?
February 20, 2013 at 2:25 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/...82745.html
Quote:Essentially, Savage said that computers used to build simulations perform "lattice quantum chromodynamics calculations" - dividing space into a four-dimensional grid. Doing so allows researchers to examine the force which binds subatomic particles together into neutrons and protons - but it also allows things to happen in the simulation, including the development of complex physical "signatures", that researchers don't program directly into the computer. In looking for these signatures, such as limitations on the energy held by cosmic rays, they hope to find similarities within our own universe.
And if such signatures do appear in both? Boot up, baby. We're inside a computer. (Maybe).
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RE: How can we be sure this is reality?
February 20, 2013 at 7:51 pm
(February 20, 2013 at 2:25 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/...82745.html
Quote:Essentially, Savage said that computers used to build simulations perform "lattice quantum chromodynamics calculations" - dividing space into a four-dimensional grid. Doing so allows researchers to examine the force which binds subatomic particles together into neutrons and protons - but it also allows things to happen in the simulation, including the development of complex physical "signatures", that researchers don't program directly into the computer. In looking for these signatures, such as limitations on the energy held by cosmic rays, they hope to find similarities within our own universe.
And if such signatures do appear in both? Boot up, baby. We're inside a computer. (Maybe).
atheists will just invent something else, just as they did when spontaneous generation got kicked to the curb
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RE: How can we be sure this is reality?
February 21, 2013 at 5:42 am
(February 20, 2013 at 7:51 pm)junkyardboy Wrote: atheists will just invent something else, just as they did when spontaneous generation got kicked to the curb
I'm not sure what you mean here. Atheists didn't invent spontaneous generation and it was accepted into Christianity.
Spntaneous Generation - Adoption In Christianity
Quote:From the fall of the Roman Empire in 5th century to the East-West Schism in 1054, the influence of Greek science declined, although spontaneous generation generally went unchallenged. New descriptions were made. Of the numerous beliefs, some had doctrinal implications outside of the Book of Genesis. For example, the idea that a variety of bird known as the Barnacle Goose emerged from a crustacean known as the Goose Barnacle, had implications on the practice of fasting during Lent. In 1188, Gerald of Wales, after having traveled in Ireland, argued that the "unnatural" generation of barnacle geese was evidence for the Immaculate Conception.[18] Where the practice of fasting during Lent allowed fish, but prohibited fowl, the idea that the goose was in fact a fish suggested that its consumption be permitted during Lent. The practice was eventually prohibited by decree of Pope Innocent III in 1215.[19]
Louis Pasteur was the one who finally put the idea to rest.
Quote:his son-in-law, in perhaps the most complete biography of Louis Pasteur, writes:
Absolute faith in God and in Eternity, and a conviction that the power for good given to us in this world will be continued beyond it, were feelings which pervaded his whole life; the virtues of the gospel had ever been present to him. Full of respect for the form of religion which had been that of his forefathers, he came simply to it and naturally for spiritual help in these last weeks of his life.[18]
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RE: How can we be sure this is reality?
February 21, 2013 at 5:55 am
(February 20, 2013 at 7:51 pm)junkyardboy Wrote: [atheists will just invent something else, just as they did when spontaneous generation got kicked to the curb
Your stupid ass forgot to mention what it was that atheists invented when spontaneous generation got kicked to the curb.
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