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The Moon is Not Real
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(August 29, 2009 at 12:08 pm)dry land fish Wrote: There are tons of rumours about the masons and usually none are true. They really are a secret society and even being married to one I have no idea what he does. No one unless they are a mason can possibly know about their organization. The shows on tv give false information...or that's what my husband says.

I remember seeing an episode of the history of the freemasons on the history channel a over 5-6 years ago and found it interesting. But as you are stating that tv shows give false information.

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(August 30, 2009 at 1:51 am)Amphora Wrote:
(August 29, 2009 at 12:08 pm)dry land fish Wrote: There are tons of rumours about the masons and usually none are true. They really are a secret society and even being married to one I have no idea what he does. No one unless they are a mason can possibly know about their organization. The shows on tv give false information...or that's what my husband says.

I remember seeing an episode of the history of the freemasons on the history channel a over 5-6 years ago and found it interesting. But as you are stating that tv shows give false information.

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He says it's false. I know that one show on the History channel had a female Mason on there. Females aren't even allowed to be a Mason. They can belong to the Eastern Star if their father, brother, or son is a Mason. I was invited but I'm Atheist so I don't qualify. I didn't tell them I was Atheist but I just declined to join. The Eastern Star isn't as secretive as the Masons. They basically get together and eat and then raise money to give to childrens charities.
(August 29, 2009 at 9:16 pm)Tiberius Wrote:
(August 29, 2009 at 5:37 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: What complete bollocks. You are the biggest hypocrite I've ever come across. Oh yeah you disagree with giving handouts to slackers but then your fukking other half giving generously to charity is perfectly ok
Evidently you haven't read a Libertarian manifesto. We seek to remove welfare and encourage public charity instead. The government should have no responsibility in giving money to people who refuse to work.

Yes well said Adrian.

Frodo there's a HUGE difference between taxing the people to provide care for "less fortunate" citizens in a country and a charitable donation. That difference is that someone is giving money freely to help someone they want to help. Libertarians agree with charity. We feel that is what people who don't have money or food should rely on. This is a way to keep people who don't deserve charity from getting it. How many people want to donate to a crack whore mom who spends her money on crack and can't feed her kids? I wouldn't donate anything to them. I'd call child protective services and hope they put the kids in a home with someone who can afford to love and feed them. I would however donate money to a woman who's husband just died and she lost her income and her kids are hungry. Taxing people gives money to those crack heads...charity usually doesn't because the are too lazy and too high to even think about charity.
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The state welfare system is the cheapest way to support those that need it. The Govt balance what would be most efficient, hence free loaders profit to an acceptable extent to the Govt. Charitable giving is therefore a more expensive way to address the issue.
That the Masons and friends support charity is, as I said, purely a reason to hide their utterly selfish activities.
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I know all there is to know about freemasons. I've seen the Simpsons episode. Big Grin
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Leo van Miert
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Haha yeah - I'm with Leo Smile
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