AtlasS..

[The Grand Nudger]

Agree with me on what? I think Palestine should be recognized as a state, because I'm a dyed in the wool "will of the people" kind of guy - if that's the will of the people. Just mentioning that the will of the people is no guarantee. At the same time I wonder (like one might wonder about any such thing) what benefit there is to being in Palestine, as opposed to being in a Palestinian State in Israel, similar to states in the US. All of this removing the crutch of religion - I know, I know, not gonna happen.

[Cato]

Before I say anything else, I need to understand what the difference is between politics and hardcore politics. You keep saying 'hardcore politics', I don't understand the distinction.

[Violet]

One moment, he argues that use of marijuana will get Atlas addicted ...

No I didn't...

If you say so, dear. Them subliminal massages!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40zfXQqX_Zc

I try not to look to deeply into what is said by people who say weird things, because that gets confusing. I'm a simple girl, can't keep up with all your needlessly complicated philosophizing...

[Dee Dee Ramone]

Before I say anything else, I need to understand what the difference is between politics and hardcore politics. You keep saying 'hardcore politics', I don't understand the distinction.

Israel and Palestine are the perfect ingredients for a 300-page thread; hardcore politics because it's not about % income tax, but about a key-conflict in the world.

Anyone, care to open a new thread?

[WinterHold]

Agree with me on what? I think Palestine should be recognized as a state, because I'm a dyed in the wool "will of the people" kind of guy - if that's the will of the people. Just mentioning that the will of the people is no guarantee. At the same time I wonder (like one might wonder about any such thing) what benefit there is to being in Palestine, as opposed to being in a Palestinian State in Israel, similar to states in the US. All of this removing the crutch of religion - I know, I know, not gonna happen.

I don't agree with you on removing religion & leave politics in the matter of Israel ; it's impossible.
Just like discussing god in Islam while quoting from Stalin..

Before I say anything else, I need to understand what the difference is between politics and hardcore politics. You keep saying 'hardcore politics', I don't understand the distinction.

Israel and Palestine are the perfect ingredients for a 300-page thread; hardcore politics because it's not about % income tax, but about a key-conflict in the world.

This ^

Anyone, care to open a new thread?

I do

[Aractus]

If you say so, dear. Them subliminal massages!

I don't have to say so, the fact is I didn't say what you said I did.

[Violet]

If you say so, dear. Them subliminal massages!

I don't have to say so, the fact is I didn't say what you said I did.

This has been happening a lot lately: I make a very clear and concise point... yet...



I don't get it. Are people getting stupider, or am I not condescending far enough?



Maybe pictures will help you! ^_^

[Mystical]

Of course. "Responsibility" comes in when you can control what you're doing. It's impossible to take an addictive drug "responsibly", with heroin I feel it's a one needle ; then you'll probably get hooked. Weed is the negation of all that.

You should have quit while you were "ahead". I know more than one person who have used coke recreationally for more than 10 years without becoming addicted. If you don't use coke regularly it is near impossible to become addicted to it. Once again you show how little you actually know. FYI I remain opposed to all illicit drugs.

Aractus, you're simply and absolutely totally wrong about cocaine, friend. Absolutely wrong. Your friend wasn't addicted? Is that why he did it for ten years then? Just sayin. It is near impossible not to become addicted to it, whether you use it once in awhile or not: you're addicted at some level. The level of self-control in each individual varies is all. I'll never get rid of the want to do cocaine, it'll always be there. I have no idea where you get your information, unless it's from your friend who probably is biased towards the subject. Hell, I even reminisce fondly of cocaine but I can admit to myself that I was addicted, and that it's deadly. The damage in your friend is done. Weed on the other hand, is harmless and if anything should be legalized above alcohol, which just like illicit drugs can be deadly if use is uninhibited. Please note that I do not consider marijuana an illicit drug, unless it's been engineered synthetically.

Once again you show how little you actually know.

I think you need to re-examine your embarrassing over-confidence on the subject. And FYI I don't do any illicit drugs, don't drink, and don't smoke either.

AtlasS,

I'm going to, but I'm trying to mix my original pic with a good design ; but it seems that I lost my photoshop touch :/
I'm putting courage back until I manage to complete that design ><

I like photoshop Love it. I'm looking to make some examples of my work so I can get paid work. Need help?
And have you started that religion thread?

[Aractus]

Aractus, you're simply and absolutely totally wrong about cocaine, friend. Absolutely wrong.

You know, if I wanted to I could buy a pack of cigarettes, smoke the whole packet, and not become addicted, plus have absolutely zero effect on my long-term health. I choose not to.

Cocaine becomes addictive when used regularly. Regular use encourages pleasure receptors in your brain to respond to coke and become unresponsive to their previous stimuli. Without regular use the risks associated with cocaine are very low.

Your friend wasn't addicted? Is that why he did it for ten years then? Just sayin. It is near impossible not to become addicted to it, whether you use it once in awhile or not: you're addicted at some level.

Nonsense. I hate drugs, but I don't spurt bullshit to make my point, nor do I like to listen to bullshit.

The level of self-control in each individual varies is all. I'll never get rid of the want to do cocaine, it'll always be there. I have no idea where you get your information, unless it's from your friend who probably is biased towards the subject. Hell, I even reminisce fondly of cocaine but I can admit to myself that I was addicted, and that it's deadly. The damage in your friend is done. Weed on the other hand, is harmless and if anything should be legalized above alcohol, which just like illicit drugs can be deadly if use is uninhibited.

Cannabis stays in your body, and your body is still affected by it, for far longer than alcohol. That's why alcohol is legal and cannabis isn't.

[Violet]

Weed on the other hand, is harmless and if anything should be legalized above alcohol, which just like illicit drugs can be deadly if use is uninhibited.

I don't know that it's 'harmless', for instance: smoking it will still cause smoke damage to your lungs... and an absence of sobriety has significant potential for harm if used irresponsibly (especially with more inherently dangerous tasks, such as driving heavy equipment).

Certainly, it is nowhere near as dangerous as the ever-prevalent alcohol... but the legality of a drug is not necessarily related to the level of danger in using said drug either recreationally in a 'responsible' manner... or perhaps much less so.

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You know, if I wanted to I could buy a pack of cigarettes, smoke the whole packet, and not become addicted, plus have absolutely zero effect on my long-term health. I choose not to.

Or, you could become addicted to the nicotine in them by the third one in. You really can't know if 'this time' you'll become addicted, since that's just not how these things work ^_^

Psychological dependence on ___ is not so much related to what ___ is... but on the circumstances which allowed ___ to fill a void where things are missing in a life. I really don't think it's unconnected that many consistent drug users are miserable (it's a stereotype, argue it if yall like), especially considering that drugs mess with the chemicals in the person's head, and are an easily connected to physical 'thing' that they can associate with those 'feelings'.

Whether that void be financial, emotional, sexual, sensual, romantic, physical, or of sheer bordom... if anything gives a person a psychological, physical, mental, spiritual, or whatever 'fullness' <for whatever reason>: there is a potential for them to 'crave' that 'thing'. Drugs get a reputation for being 'addictive' precisely because there is a significant potential for eventual psychological (and even physical) dependence through repeated use... and in some (few) cases, it might only take the one use (heroin).

Notation: smaller dosages correspond to a smaller chance of addiction formulating through use

Cocaine becomes addictive when used regularly. Regular use encourages pleasure receptors in your brain to respond to coke and become unresponsive to their previous stimuli. Without regular use the risks associated with cocaine are very low.

The same is true of all drugs. Cocaine isn't some special exception to the world of the mighty chemicals

Nonsense. I hate drugs, but I don't spurt bullshit to make my point, nor do I like to listen to bullshit.

You don't spurt bullshit to make you're point? Maybe your problem is that you don't hear yourself, and thusly don't notice?

Cannabis stays in your body, and your body is still affected by it, for far longer than alcohol. That's why alcohol is legal and cannabis isn't.

Because mild brain damage and moderate liver damage aren't long-term, right?

Alcohol is legal for cultural reasons, as hemp was quite legal before cotton wanted a stranglehold on the fiber market. I wonder if it is really illegal to grow cannabis in the USA, since my elementary and middle school 'DARE' program seemed dead-set on telling me about people arrested for growing it

Least you can make alcohol if you're licensed.