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RE: Are depressed people more realistic?
February 21, 2013 at 12:00 pm
He sometimes replaces "spiritual" with "transcendence", meaning, that he likes to meditate, it's part of his history. Unfortunately, when someone hears "spiritual" they hear "spirit" and that becomes a bit godly and it all goes downhill. To transcned, or rise above your expirence and see things as interconnected, even for an hour (or less), tends to have some benifits, if you can separate yourself from the "woo" part that new agers seem to have injected into it - e.g., "out of body experience", rather than "be here now".
Given how much my mind bombards me with information at times, I find it gives me the quiet time to be more rational.
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RE: Are depressed people more realistic?
February 21, 2013 at 12:10 pm
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I get all my quiet time handled early in the am on the toilet - as I'm causing the sun to rise. That's what makes my quiet time so impressive - it's very industrious but simultaneously requires little effort on my part.
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RE: Are depressed people more realistic?
February 21, 2013 at 12:36 pm
(February 21, 2013 at 12:10 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I get all my quiet time handled early in the am on the toilet - as I'm causing the sun to rise. That's what makes my quiet time so impressive - it's very industrious but simultaneously requires little effort on my part.
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RE: Are depressed people more realistic?
February 21, 2013 at 12:43 pm
(February 21, 2013 at 11:48 am)Rhythm Wrote: See, strange thing about that, to me to be "spiritual" means embracing the animal and human( how redundant) nature of one's self. Unfortunately, in the case of "spirit"uality - by proxy. Find me a "spirit" that doesn't exemplify some human trait or range of traits. What exactly are we embracing when we embrace those stylized examples of ourselves -if not- ourselves? I'd call being "spiritual" alot of things, but I wouldn't call it escapism - even if the "spiritual" person is of the opinion that it offers such an avenue.
Bit like trying to escape the wolves by cornering yourself in their den, but that's just my opinion.
the headlines are filled daily with those embracing the animal nature of self.
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RE: Are depressed people more realistic?
February 21, 2013 at 12:45 pm
(February 21, 2013 at 12:43 pm)junkyardboy Wrote: the headlines are filled daily with those embracing the animal nature of self.
Like eating? Having sex?
You know that humans are animals?
So of course the headlines are filled with animal stuff, the headlines are writen by animals.
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RE: Are depressed people more realistic?
February 21, 2013 at 12:57 pm
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Lets not forget about attributing events to phantom forces beyond their comprehension (especially if the event is beyond their comprehension). Pleading with said phantom forces to favor them, etc. A truer means of embracing ones "animal nature" could not be asked for. Like and like, we "make shit happen" so we assume that other "we's" "make shit happen". We can be pleaded with, bargained with, bribed, extorted, so we assume that those other "we's" can be pleaded with, bargained with, bribed, and extorted. Classic.
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RE: Are depressed people more realistic?
February 22, 2013 at 10:18 am
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 (February 18, 2013 at 11:10 am)naimless Wrote:
The total perspective vortex
Quote:In 1988, psychologists Shelley Taylor and Jonathon Brown published an article making the somewhat disturbing claim that positive self-deception is a normal and beneficial part of most people’s everyday outlook. They suggested that average people hold cognitive biases in three key areas: a) viewing themselves in unrealistically positive terms; b) believing they have more control over their environment than they actually do; and c) holding views about the future that are more positive than the evidence can justify. The typical person, it seems, depends on these happy delusions for the self-esteem needed to function through a normal day...
Studies into clinical depression have yielded similar findings, leading to the development of an intriguing, but still controversial, concept known as depressive realism. This theory puts forward the notion that depressed individuals actually have more realistic perceptions of their own image, importance, and abilities than the average person. While it’s still generally accepted that depressed people can be negatively biased in their interpretation of events and information, depressive realism suggests that they are often merely responding rationally to realities that the average person cheerfully denies.
...These problems put therapists in the curious position of teaching patients to develop irrational patterns of thinking—patterns that help them view the world as a rosier place than it really is. Counter-intuitive as it sounds, it's justified because what defines a mental disorder is not unreasonable or illogical thought, but abnormal behaviour that causes significant distress and impairs normal functioning in society. Treatment is about restoring a person to that level of normal functioning and satisfaction, even if it means building cognitions that aren’t precisely “rational” or “realistic.” treatment --prozac
treatment ...prozac
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RE: Are depressed people more realistic?
February 22, 2013 at 1:09 pm
(February 22, 2013 at 10:18 am)yobbyy Wrote: (February 18, 2013 at 11:10 am)naimless Wrote:
The total perspective vortex treatment --prozac
treatment ...prozac
the world is a jungle of privileged tribes of mutant primates and tribes of mutant primates building nuclear bombs to get their fair share.
treatment...more prozac
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RE: Are depressed people more realistic?
February 22, 2013 at 3:56 pm
Yo, don't do drugs, kids
But
Take a pill, take a pill, take a pill...
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RE: Are depressed people more realistic?
February 22, 2013 at 6:07 pm
Yeah, I bet that wouldn't be the attitude you dished out if it was an antibiotic for a deadly infection, but fuck the depressed, right? Big pharm just makes that shit up to make money and people think that because they don't know how fucking horrible it really is.
But, but, but, put a bullet in your head instead.
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