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Arguments for the prohibition of drugs
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RE: Arguments for the prohibition of drugs
(February 25, 2013 at 2:36 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: I dont think I have to explain why meth shouldnt be legal.

Ah...but you do, you absolutely do.
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#12
RE: Arguments for the prohibition of drugs
Have you ever seen a methaddict?


Ever since it`s production came to eastern Europe from the US, where massive amounts of chemical waste makes it easy to produce, streets have been flooded.
I tried meth once when I was 19 years old, so it isnt like heroin which makes you addicted right on your first use of it.
But it completly destroys you on a longterm use. And not just some risk of lungcancer, it literaly dehydrates you, makes your skin dry up completly, your hair fall out and your teeth start to rot.

I dont know about any longterm medical studies, but the fact that it is made of battery acid, drain cleaner, petrol and antifreeze chemicals says it all.
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#13
RE: Arguments for the prohibition of drugs
Another good argument against the legalization of certain drugs would be the case study of desomorphine.

Russian users might be aware of the street drug "Krokodil".

Horrifying impurities that cause mass tissue necrosis (gaping holes in limbs, skin falling off) aside, let's look, like heroin, at the addiction potential.

It's rather high in comparison to nearly every other drug.

Drugs that have a high physical addictiveness potential should remain illegal.

I'd like to point out the majority of drug users are merely escaping or getting a good rush, so you need to provide a varied and large enough offering.

Note that said offering doesn't need to include the most addictive drugs to be rather complete in the experiences (psychedelic, opiate euphoria, etc).
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RE: Arguments for the prohibition of drugs
(February 25, 2013 at 1:33 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Could this not easily be construed as an argument for why alcohol and tobacco should be illegal, as opposed to why the use of other substances should be legalized?

If it were possible to prohibit alcohol, without the consequence of organized criminals supplying it, would it be justifiable to do so?
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RE: Arguments for the prohibition of drugs
(February 27, 2013 at 4:39 pm)Grockel Wrote:
(February 25, 2013 at 1:33 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Could this not easily be construed as an argument for why alcohol and tobacco should be illegal, as opposed to why the use of other substances should be legalized?

If it were possible to prohibit alcohol, without the consequence of organized criminals supplying it, would it be justifiable to do so?

Yes, provided there was a "tequila exception."


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RE: Arguments for the prohibition of drugs
(February 25, 2013 at 2:36 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: Heroin and Crystal Meth.




These two are probably the 2 best arguments against the legalisation of drugs.
But only for these two drugs.
Heroin means addiction, even if you inject it only once - therefor it`s legalisation would be completly unreasonable and counterproductive.

I dont think I have to explain why meth shouldnt be legal.
Have you ever heard of bath salts? Basically, it was created to fill a legal loophole made by Meth's illegality. Basically, if one tweaks the chemical formula just a little, it's sort of like meth, but not enough to be illegal. But, of course, instead of the high that comes from meth, it just makes you act totally batshit crazy.

Here are some stories I've heard from a little show called What the Fuck is Wrong with You that regularly features stories of people on Bath Salts:
It's like Death Proof, only with a dude, and naked.
She got pulled out of a sewer pipe.
Her name is Carla Murphy. Her name is Carla Murphy.
Forgive me father, for I am on bath salts.
Guy breaks into house and decks the halls. No, really.


Rather insanely, this all probably could have been avoided if meth was just made legal.
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RE: Arguments for the prohibition of drugs
(February 25, 2013 at 2:36 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: Heroin and Crystal Meth.




These two are probably the 2 best arguments against the legalisation of drugs.
But only for these two drugs.
Heroin means addiction, even if you inject it only once - therefor it`s legalisation would be completly unreasonable and counterproductive.

I dont think I have to explain why meth shouldnt be legal.


It is untrue that one injection of heroin results in addiction.

How is it ethical for anyone to tell me what I may or may not ingest?
Maybe if drugs were generally legal, meth would become unpopular in favor of other drugs. Who's to say?
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#18
RE: Arguments for the prohibition of drugs
Who knows if meth would become unpopular when legal? Can you provide statistics that show it would?

I cant provide statistics which prove the oposite. I can only say that the risk doesnt seem worth taking.

Heroin is made out of opium which is the most addictive substance in existance, it is untrue to claim that heroin "doesnt make addictive" to the point of even being irresponsible. Legalising heroin would be a social catastrophy and has been in several sociaties where it use to be legal.
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RE: Arguments for the prohibition of drugs
(February 27, 2013 at 6:12 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: Who knows if meth would become unpopular when legal? Can you provide statistics that show it would?

I cant provide statistics which prove the oposite. I can only say that the risk doesnt seem worth taking.

Heroin is made out of opium which is the most addictive substance in existance, it is untrue to claim that heroin "doesnt make addictive" to the point of even being irresponsible. Legalising heroin would be a social catastrophy and has been in several sociaties where it use to be legal.


No, you said injecting only once is addictive. That is false.

And I said that with the availability of alternatives to meth might reduce meth's popularity.
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RE: Arguments for the prohibition of drugs
That with the alternatives I can agree on, yet this does not make it a reasonable step to legalise meth.

On heroin: Yes, in most cases the first shot causes an adiction. Many underestimate how enormously addictive substances made out of opium are.
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