Pascal's Wager (the new version)

[Norfolk And Chance]

Think you're probably right.

[Cyberman]

WHY is the probability of god greater than 0?

Just because one might acknowledge that one cannot know with 100% certainty that there is no god, does not translate into the probability that god > 0.

The probability of god could very easily be 0, as much as it could be >0.

The probability of god actually being true is not affected in any way, shape or form by what outside observers can "know" or "prove" or even "believe".

Exactly. How long, I wonder, before our new friend realises that his proof of his god completely depends on taking for granted that the god exists in the first place? Or were we not supposed to notice and we just ruined the ending?

[Norfolk And Chance]

Yeah, that's why I have asked him to justify how god must have a greater probability than 0, because he'll probably use the assumption that god > 0 as a basis for his "proof".

[Muslim Scholar]

Yeah, that's why I have asked him to justify how god must have a greater probability than 0, because he'll probably use the assumption that god > 0 as a basis for his "proof".

It is very obvious, as you cannot prove the non-existence of God!

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Your life will worth nothing near the end of your life i.e. =0

What do you base this upon? I say that life is equally worth from the beginning to the end, not declining each second.

If there is no God
When you die, you don't exist period
So what you did and how was your life, doesn't make any value
as you don't remember or feel about it!

[Something completely different]

If there is no God
When you die, you don't exist period
So what you did and how was your life, doesn't make any value
as you don't remember or feel about it!

I dont live to be judged by a invisible space dady.

Let alnoe by a tyranical, narcecist, genocidal psychopath.

I live so my actions my be judged by my fellow humans those who come after me.

Here, with the phrases you posted above one can see the biggest problem with you people. Your arrogant possition in which you believe to know what we think or believe.

It would be far more wise to simply ask questions to what we believe instead of making such absolutly idiotic and false claims!

[Muslim Scholar]

I live so my actions my be judged by my fellow humans those who come after me.

Normal (sane) people, expect a reward from their actions
When you die, how are you going to feel that your (fellow) humans liked or disliked your actions?
Your life doesn't worth anything (to you) after you die; because you will be nothing (According to you)

It would be far more wise to simply ask questions to what we believe instead of making such absolutly idiotic and false claims!

Islam is the only religions that can be based on proofs

[Something completely different]

Normal (sane) people, expect a reward from their actions
When you die, how are you going to feel that your (fellow) humans liked or disliked your actions?
Your life doesn't worth anything (to you) after you die; because you will be nothing (According to you)

That is not the point.

The point is, I get rewarded and comfort during my life and going towards the end I am rewarded by knowing that I have given my life a good purpose.

You basicaly just reposted the same nonsence, eighter ignoring what I posted or not understanding it.

I will not paint you a picture to understand it if you dont understand it now.

Islam is the only religions that can be based on proofs

Such as?

The flat earth?!

That salt and fresh water dont mix?

And the superb moral truths of cutting off a thiefs arm and stoning women?

Doesnt matter if you find any weird predictions.
The fact that your precious quoran has faulty and wrong content and that it`s moral code is infirior to our modern secular code of morals says it all.

[genkaus]

Yeah, that's why I have asked him to justify how god must have a greater probability than 0, because he'll probably use the assumption that god > 0 as a basis for his "proof".

It is very obvious, as you cannot prove the non-existence of God!

Even if that was true, that still says nothing about the probability of of his existence.

What do you base this upon? I say that life is equally worth from the beginning to the end, not declining each second.

If there is no God
When you die, you don't exist period
So what you did and how was your life, doesn't make any value
as you don't remember or feel about it!

Kaye's point still stands. Even if life was to lose value after death, it still doesn't indicate that its value decreases before it.

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Islam is the only religions that can be based on proofs

Good one. Tell me another.

[Angrboda]

[Muslim Scholar]

It is very obvious, as you cannot prove the non-existence of God!

Even if that was true, that still says nothing about the probability of of his existence.

As many humans believe in God, his probability (for another human) should be >0

Kaye's point still stands. Even if life was to lose value after death, it still doesn't indicate that its value decreases before it.

How come?
If your life (for you) worth 10 Million Dollars (Usually people value their lives with money, happiness, etc.)
Then 1 year of live will worth 10/Age
and as your remaining time is reducing by time, so is the value of your life

Let me give you an example
You have cancer and Doctors are saying that you are going to die in few days, a Priest came to you and said: just say I believe in JESUS, you will go to Paradise!

Even though that I know for sure that Christianity is false, what will you do?

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Very stupid statement

Non existence of knowledge is not a knowledge of non existence

An Atheist is a person who doesn't know, not a person who knows that there will be no hereafter