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If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
The question was if there was a "magic button" not should we try to change people through indoctrination.

As for your other points, they're all part of a straw man argument. The Anglican church isn't concerned with covering up criminal clergy activity, or reducing women's rights in society or any of that other nonsense you mentioned.
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RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
(March 4, 2013 at 5:37 am)Aractus Wrote: The question was if there was a "magic button" not should we try to change people through indoctrination.

As for your other points, they're all part of a straw man argument. The Anglican church isn't concerned with covering up criminal clergy activity, or reducing women's rights in society or any of that other nonsense you mentioned.

And if there was a magic button would you push it?
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RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
(March 3, 2013 at 7:46 am)Ryantology Wrote: Please provide a list of physical adaptations one must undergo before engagement in gay sex is possible.

First of all, gay "sex" is not really sex.

Sex requires two partners to combine their sexual organs. Gay people cannot do this - it is impossible, because same sex bodies are not physically complimentary, in the same way that opposite sex bodies are.

In order to do what is known as gay "sex", gay people must use artificial means to overcome the fact that their bodies are not compatible.

This does require a range of interventions to be made, for example a gay man preparing to sodomise another gay man, must first wash out his partners anus using an enema or douche, (for obvious reasons), and then apply artificial lubrication (to facilitate an erect penis being inserted into an orifice which - clearly, via its features -is not intended to receive it).
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RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
(February 27, 2013 at 9:50 pm)Question Mark Wrote: Or bisexual? Pansexual? Transsexual?

If it were made a choice, why not go broad? Why not be cured one way and then back the other way? It's an interesting prospect when it actually is a choice Smile

Ahhhh.... what a singular S can do to a word. (/endpedantry)

The only cure I'd like for my transsexuality is a vagina, complete with ovaries, womb and general baby-making capabilities. The rest would pretty much just come with the territory Heart

Not into fucking with people's heads without a very good reason for it... cure seems pointless, if there is no grandiose reason for it that I'm not yet made aware of.

(February 28, 2013 at 10:12 am)Question Mark Wrote: The salient difference between homosexuality and cannibalism in terms of the relationship between animals and humans, is that the concept of homosexuality on its own is entirely innocuous, whereas cannibalism as a way of life is intrinsically invasive on the lives of other people.
IE. those people getting eaten.

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RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
(March 4, 2013 at 5:10 pm)Gabriel Syme Wrote: First of all, gay "sex" is not really sex.

Sex requires two partners to combine their sexual organs. Gay people cannot do this - it is impossible, because same sex bodies are not physically complimentary, in the same way that opposite sex bodies are.

In order to do what is known as gay "sex", gay people must use artificial means to overcome the fact that their bodies are not compatible.

This does require a range of interventions to be made, for example a gay man preparing to sodomise another gay man, must first wash out his partners anus using an enema or douche, (for obvious reasons), and then apply artificial lubrication (to facilitate an erect penis being inserted into an orifice which - clearly, via its features -is not intended to receive it).

well, here is a definition of sex:

Quote:Human sexual activities or human sexual practices or human sexual behavior refers to the manner in which humans experience and express their sexuality. People engage in a variety of sexual acts from time to time, and for a wide variety of reasons. Sexual activity normally results in sexual arousal and physiological changes in the aroused person, some of which are pronounced while others are more subtle. Sexual activity also includes conduct and activities which are intended to arouse the sexual interest of another, such as strategies to find or attract partners (mating and display behavior), and personal interactions between individuals, such as flirting and foreplay.
Human sexual activity has sociological, cognitive, emotional, behavioral and biological aspects, including physiological processes such as the reproductive mechanism, the sex drive and pathology; sexual intercourse and sexual behavior in all its forms; and personal bonding and shared emotions during sexual activity.
In some cultures, sexual activity is considered acceptable only within marriage, although premarital and extramarital sex are also common. Some sexual activities are illegal either universally or in some countries, and some are considered against the norms of a society. For example, sexual activity with a person below some age of consent and sexual assault in general are criminal offenses in most jurisdictions.

following your definition:

handjobs, blowjobs, pussy eating, footjobs, every sort of masturbation, spanking, anal sex, fisting, .............

isnt sex?!

You are sad
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RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
(March 1, 2013 at 7:16 am)paulpablo Wrote: I've heard that girls without fathers become more promiscuous in later life, but I'm skeptical when i hear stuff like that.

It's because it's nonsense Heart
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RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
(February 27, 2013 at 10:37 pm)Question Mark Wrote:
(February 27, 2013 at 10:19 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I'm sure some people would volunteer to change their sexuality because you know, if there's something that can be done that's weird someone somewhere is going to do it, but i think its fairly obvious the general rule is people are gay because they like being gay and straight because they like being straight so barely anyone would volunteer to change.


Transexual isn't a sexuality, also in the context of this proposed situation where people are volunteering to become homosexuals to prevent population overflow becoming pan sexual or bi sexual wouldn't have much benefit.

It was a joke, honestly. By this point I thought people weren't taking the issue very seriously, so I threw in some implications of rampant promiscuity, which is a stereotype of pansexuals and bisexuals (as I'm only too familiar), and of misguided collectivism (transexuals not being an orientation as you pointed out). Did I not convey the irony very well? It doesn't always translate so well online without the body language and tone.

(February 27, 2013 at 10:19 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Transexual isn't a sexuality, also in the context of this proposed situation where people are volunteering to become homosexuals to prevent population overflow becoming pan sexual or bi sexual wouldn't have much benefit.

I am sorry if I gave some sort of offense or said something insensitive

I didn't find it offensive funny or insensitive or unfunny or anything basically i had no emotional reaction to what i saw you typing, i just basically thought, that's wrong, then typed my reaction.


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RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
(March 4, 2013 at 6:49 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote:
(February 27, 2013 at 9:50 pm)Question Mark Wrote: Or bisexual? Pansexual? Transsexual?

If it were made a choice, why not go broad? Why not be cured one way and then back the other way? It's an interesting prospect when it actually is a choice Smile

Ahhhh.... what a singular S can do to a word. (/endpedantry)

The only cure I'd like for my transsexuality is a vagina, complete with ovaries, womb and general baby-making capabilities. The rest would pretty much just come with the territory Heart

Not into fucking with people's heads without a very good reason for it... cure seems pointless, if there is no grandiose reason for it that I'm not yet made aware of.

(February 28, 2013 at 10:12 am)Question Mark Wrote: The salient difference between homosexuality and cannibalism in terms of the relationship between animals and humans, is that the concept of homosexuality on its own is entirely innocuous, whereas cannibalism as a way of life is intrinsically invasive on the lives of other people.
IE. those people getting eaten.

VORE~!

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What's that? You want me to convert to christianity? Where's your evidence...? Is that... ... is that a cat...?

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RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
(March 3, 2013 at 6:23 pm)Shell B Wrote: Yes, violent sexism introduced by Christianity and Islam.

TBH, it was pretty bad down there before those religions were even suggested.

(March 4, 2013 at 3:53 am)jrsm_10 Wrote: I didn't have the time to read all replies, but I have to wonder what the gay community would answer (perhaps someone already did?). I'm a married woman who happens to like women and men. I wouldn't like to be cured and I don't think my husband would like me to be cured! I am glad it wasn't prevented. I like who I am. I like my life. I'm not imposing my preference (or lack of) on others the way Christians do. In any case, prevent religion and bigotry. It's the most contagious sickness of all!

Kudosed for humor Heart

Anyway... the LGBT brigade has come... and found absolutely nothing worthy of respect to consider Big Grin

(March 4, 2013 at 4:46 am)Aractus Wrote: Jrsm, as I've pointed out in other threads, religions are centralized organizations that do huge amounts of charitable community work - in the case of Anglicans we do more community work in Australia than any other denomination (including Catholics). Banning religion would necessarily result in overthrowing this, obviously you are grateful for the community work that we do, correct?

Well.... not necessarily. There are still secular venues for charity and the like, especially among people like myself, who are all about helping out their fellows Smile

I'm grateful, myself... but I wish that there was less behavior involved which I'm not grateful for (say... the rape of children). That stuff isn't any fun at all.

(March 4, 2013 at 6:59 pm)Question Mark Wrote: AWWWWW!!! I am just hopeless when it comes to cute cats.

What's that? You want me to convert to christianity? Where's your evidence...? Is that... ... is that a cat...?

Here's my first week's tithe. Come on Mr. Pickles, we're going home.

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RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
(March 4, 2013 at 7:20 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: TBH, it was pretty bad down there before those religions were even suggested.

Depends on where we are talking about. Islam has been in northern Africa for quite a long time. In fact, Abrahamic religions and northern Africa go hand in hand more than Islam and the Middle East. Don't forget Egypt is in Africa. So, as far as northern Africa is concerned, I'm not even sure we know much about how people behaved there before those religions were introduced because they have been there for so long. Now, if we are talking about the southern parts of Africa, we can definitely say witch doctor shit is pretty fucked up. A combination of witch doctor shit and Christianity? That is the Africa we know and love today. At least, sub-Saharan Africa and that is where we see most of the insane HIV statistics. I'm sure we can agree that religion is not a good idea in Africa. Big Grin

Sym, Syme, Slime or whatever your name is, so, we have to combine our genitals now for it to be sex? I think you're going to have to count me out on that one. I prefer separate, but touching genitals. Call me old-fashioned.
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