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Does god still make new demons for the devil?
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RE: Does god still make new demons for the devil?
(March 5, 2013 at 2:18 pm)John V Wrote:
(March 5, 2013 at 2:06 pm)Brakeman Wrote: [It's only a stupid question because of the stupidity of the presumption, that god and demons exist.
No, it's stupid because god is omiscient, and so it's nonsensical to ask how he gauged the quantity he needed.

Ok, so your answer is that because god knew the future, he created enough demons for every human that "needed" one? We'll call that quantity "X."
So did he create all that he saw the need for at one time or is he still creating them?
Why did god need to create so many demons in the first place? Was there a need in his "plan" to have people possessed, thereby unduly influencing them out of their free will?

When a poor girl is possessed by a demon and a church exorcist must come to caste the demon out, how is it that the exorcist knows that the girl wants the demon out? Why can't the girl get the demon to leave as by her own will?
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RE: Does god still make new demons for the devil?
(March 5, 2013 at 8:38 am)Brakeman Wrote: The question is "did god create a finite set of demons, and if so how did he gage the quantity he needed?"
It is believed of the total number of angels created 1/3 of them fell when lucifer fell.

So there are a finite number of demons. this number could be in the trillions, but it is a finite number.

Quote:If not, does he continue to create them as new people are born and possessed?
What makes you think the only job of a Demon is possession?

Quote: What is the scriptural basis for the XTIAN positions?
I don't know of any examples of Christian possessions.
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RE: Does god still make new demons for the devil?
I don't think it's a stupid question, I think it's meant to make you guys look ridiculous when you actually answer it by discussing the number of demons needed, their jobs, demon possesions, etc.




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RE: Does god still make new demons for the devil?
(March 5, 2013 at 7:14 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: I don't think it's a stupid question, I think it's meant to make you guys look ridiculous when you actually answer it by discussing the number of demons needed, their jobs, demon possesions, etc.
NSS. That's why we didn't bite, and only came in at his nagging to point out it's a stupid question. Drich is now also pointing out Brakeman's ignorance of the Bible.
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RE: Does god still make new demons for the devil?
(March 5, 2013 at 7:24 pm)John V Wrote: NSS. That's why we didn't bite, and only came in at his nagging to point out it's a stupid question. Drich is now also pointing out Brakeman's ignorance of the Bible.

In all fairness, you didn't bite. I think Drich is chewing on a big chunk of stupid sandwich in the post above though.
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RE: Does god still make new demons for the devil?
(March 5, 2013 at 6:46 pm)Drich Wrote:
(March 5, 2013 at 8:38 am)Brakeman Wrote: The question is "did god create a finite set of demons, and if so how did he gage the quantity he needed?"
It is believed of the total number of angels created 1/3 of them fell when lucifer fell.

So there are a finite number of demons. this number could be in the trillions, but it is a finite number.

Quote:If not, does he continue to create them as new people are born and possessed?
What makes you think the only job of a Demon is possession?

Quote: What is the scriptural basis for the XTIAN positions?
I don't know of any examples of Christian possessions.
Thank you for the first answer. I'm assuming that you mean that god is no longer creating demons in your opinion.

As for the second statement, I don't see how you would have gotten that I was being exclusionary, I just wandered why god created the amount he did, whatever the reason, since it seems like a dick thing to do to make so many.

You misread my question on the last one. I wrote "position" not "possession." I wanted to know if you knew any relevant bible verses that backed up your current christian theological stance on the issues of demon possession, not of examples per se, but rather bible texts that explain the "why's" of demon possession.

My google search revealed this:
http://www.apologeticspress.org/APConten...ticle=1154

and here:
http://www.biblebelievers.com/morton_demon.html

Does your position mirror either of these after a quick perusal?
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RE: Does god still make new demons for the devil?
(March 5, 2013 at 7:28 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(March 5, 2013 at 7:24 pm)John V Wrote: NSS. That's why we didn't bite, and only came in at his nagging to point out it's a stupid question. Drich is now also pointing out Brakeman's ignorance of the Bible.

In all fairness, you didn't bite. I think Drich is chewing on a big chunk of stupid sandwich in the post above though.
Now Brakeman's acting like he's all serious though.
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Oh crap Brakeman, two more were just created!
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RE: Does god still make new demons for the devil?
(March 5, 2013 at 8:20 pm)John V Wrote: DevilDevil
Oh crap Brakeman, two more were just created!

Cool! Can you send me one Fed-ex? Or do they only exist in someone's delusional fantasy?
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