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War and the Qur'an: Hypocritical criticism
#21
RE: War and the Qur'an: Hypocritical criticism
(March 7, 2013 at 7:26 pm)mo66 Wrote:
(March 7, 2013 at 6:01 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Dunno about you, but I find a great deal of irony in your response, given the nature of the language used in your OP. And in a thread pointing out the hypocrisy of others, no less!

ROFLOL
I'm not forcing you to respond Smile People can do whatever they want on this forum. I posed a loaded question yes, but I won't answer them Smile Especially from scum Wink

And yet again, you refuse to answer the question.

And that MR. ATHEIST SCUM to you. You have not earned the right to address me casually.

Answer the question. Do you believe it is your duty as a good islamist to hunt down and kill the infidels for their crime of not believing in your particular god?

Lets turn that around. If xtianity used the same logic as your koran, would it be ok for the xtians to hunt you down and kill you?
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." -Einstein
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#22
RE: War and the Qur'an: Hypocritical criticism
(March 7, 2013 at 7:39 pm)mo66 Wrote:
(March 7, 2013 at 7:35 pm)paulpablo Wrote: duh, because your thread is about warfare doesn't mean my views are in line with the quran Wink Tongue Big Grin
I give up. I got outplayed by the superior intellect.

Good, giving up suits you, you should learn to not type back to me.

ROFLOL


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

Impersonation is treason.





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#23
RE: War and the Qur'an: Hypocritical criticism
(March 7, 2013 at 3:02 pm)mo66 Wrote: Do you or do you not agree with the decision that the Allied forces in WW2 fought an all-out war, offensive and defensive against Nazi Germany? If you do, congratulations, your views are in line with the Qur'an. If you don't agree, and are just a far-left pacifist, then shame on you.

?!?!!

You know why the allied forces fought that war? Ever heard of Auschwitz? Dachau? Treblinka? Sobibor? Mauthausen?

or Pearl Harbor? The siege of Leningrad? The massacrer of colonial troops? The rape of Nanking?


You do know that the fashist regimes of Europe and Japan were "non democratic" and that the allies were - and that they were fighting for the survival of these ideals.

The Soviet Union was non-democratic but it was literaly fighting for it`s survival because Hitlers plan for the east included starving to death almoust the same amount of people who died in world war two in order to produce agricultural land for Germany?

Do you compare the quorans ideals with the ideals of those who sacrificed their lives on D-Day? In Leningrad? Iwo Jima? The Buldge? The Ardenes? and other places with those cries for war to defend Islam within the quoran?

well:

The national socialist movement found great support amongst muslims throughout the world, Nassa would support a pro nazi movement when Rommel closed in onto Egypt, and the "grand" mufti of Jerusalem is notorious for supporting nazi germany in due to his hatred of the Jews.

He met Hitler several times:

[Image: Mufti-von-Jerusalem-mit-Hitler.jpg]

Recruted Muslims throughout the islamic world for Islamic Wehrmacht devisions:

[Image: grand_mufti_ss2.JPG]

And also managed to raise a muslim bosnian SS devision which would roam through the balcans and south eastern Europe hunting down jews:

[Image: Handzarparade.jpg]

[Image: Handschar-13th-SS-Division-Emblem.png]

[Image: c44aeb8f2c8260e21e9d1c321dbc4f89.jpg]


War is justifyable, when the reasons to go to war are worth fighting for, as in the case of world war two, where humanity itself was under threat, or in the Balcan wars where genocide and ethnic cleansing had to be prevented, or in Mali where barabarism had to be stoped,

But your quoran is not a justification for a just war.

It has been used as a justification for flying planes into skyscrapers, hunting jews in eastern europe under the banner of the most babaric regime which has ever existed to blowing oneself up in a crowded marketplace in Tel Aviv.

The justifications for a justified war can be on a wide range, from protecting sovereignty, human rights, democracy and civilisation itself (WW2).

But religion cannot give the justifications needed for a justified war.
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#24
RE: War and the Qur'an: Hypocritical criticism
I wish i could give that post by the germans are coming a million thumbs up


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

Impersonation is treason.





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#25
RE: War and the Qur'an: Hypocritical criticism
Religion cannot justify what type of war to have and where it's legitimate or not, but, in the case of Islam, it confirms moral reasoning as far as warfare is concerned. "and if they incline to peace, you too incline to peace"
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#26
RE: War and the Qur'an: Hypocritical criticism
(March 7, 2013 at 7:48 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I wish i could give that post by the germans are coming a million thumbs up

Yeah, when I read it I kind of felt like doing this to our Muslim pal... but I knew it would be inappropriate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qHDDhw54RM
Cunt
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#27
RE: War and the Qur'an: Hypocritical criticism
Some of you guys are just bitter because the "violence" promoted by the Qur'an is actually necessary and was used during WW2. But you can't bring yourself to admit it.

(March 7, 2013 at 7:50 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Religion cannot justify what type of war to have and where it's legitimate or not, but, in the case of Islam, it confirms moral reasoning as far as warfare is concerned. "and if they incline to peace, you too incline to peace"
Exactly. The only person refusing to admit it is "the germans are coming" which is ironic since it was his fascist regime that was destroyed. The Germans were despicable and they got what they deserved.
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#28
RE: War and the Qur'an: Hypocritical criticism
(March 7, 2013 at 7:56 pm)mo66 Wrote: Some of you guys are just bitter because the "violence" promoted by the Qur'an is actually necessary and was used during WW2. But you can't bring yourself to admit it.

Angry

In february 1944 the muslim Handza SS division was stationed in Croatia and Serbia, the war was coming to and end and it was clear that it couldnt be won.
Yet the Handza division rounded up people and executed them, massacred entire villages because they were under the orders to "whipe outh the evil communist resistance" by their muslim leadership.

If that was necessary, then sincerely go fuck yourself!!!

If this was not your point, then point out how the islamic principles of the quoran gave the justification to fight against Hitler?

Because most muslims in the war, foght for Hitler.
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#29
RE: War and the Qur'an: Hypocritical criticism
Quote:Some of you guys are just bitter because the "violence" promoted by the Qur'an is actually necessary and was used during WW2. But you can't bring yourself to admit it.

ROFLOL

Not even worth replying to, I think you're actually joking, you can't be intellectually serious when making this statement.


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

Impersonation is treason.





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#30
RE: War and the Qur'an: Hypocritical criticism
(March 7, 2013 at 8:02 pm)paulpablo Wrote:
Quote:Some of you guys are just bitter because the "violence" promoted by the Qur'an is actually necessary and was used during WW2. But you can't bring yourself to admit it.

ROFLOL

Not even worth replying to, I think you're actually joking, you can't be intellectually serious when making this statement.
Your views on warfare are exactly the same as the Qur'an's view on it as you admitted beforeWink

(March 7, 2013 at 8:01 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote:
(March 7, 2013 at 7:56 pm)mo66 Wrote: Some of you guys are just bitter because the "violence" promoted by the Qur'an is actually necessary and was used during WW2. But you can't bring yourself to admit it.

Angry

In february 1944 the muslim Handza SS division was stationed in Croatia and Serbia, the war was coming to and end and it was clear that it couldnt be won.
Yet the Handza division rounded up people and executed them, massacred entire villages because they were under the orders to "whipe outh the evil communist resistance" by their muslim leadership.

If that was necessary, then sincerely go fuck yourself!!!

If this was not your point, then point out how the islamic principles of the quoran gave the justification to fight against Hitler?

Because most muslims in the war, foght for Hitler.
I'm happy we agreed with the Qur'an and decimated your country Smile
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