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New atheist.. question
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RE: New atheist.. question
(March 17, 2013 at 8:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: I think it is a kind of humility.

If by humility you actually mean insanity, then I agree with you.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#12
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(March 17, 2013 at 3:07 pm)taylor93112 Wrote: any act of immorality in the bible

This is where you got it wrong, if you attribute any of it to God, because that isn't what the bible says. Fools will tell you otherwise, but you'll always be on a losing wicket playing that card. Don't let me stop you trying though.
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#13
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(March 17, 2013 at 8:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: I don't think it is irrational to believe that there could be some things that people might not be able to know very easily. I think it is a kind of humility.

It is indeed humbling to realize there is much we do not understand. However, it is not humility to bury our heads in the sand to ignore what we know is true for the sole purpose of rationalizing a false belief.
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(March 17, 2013 at 8:59 pm)JDS Wrote:
(March 17, 2013 at 8:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: I don't think it is irrational to believe that there could be some things that people might not be able to know very easily. I think it is a kind of humility.

It is indeed humbling to realize there is much we do not understand. However, it is not humility to bury our heads in the sand to ignore what we know is true for the sole purpose of rationalizing a false belief.

I have never done this in my entire life. I have never buried my head to ignore what it true. Sometimes I wish that I had because not doing this has cost me so much.
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(March 17, 2013 at 3:07 pm)taylor93112 Wrote: ive recently come out to my christian parents that i am an atheist, and i have gotten in many arguments with them (as you can imagine). and there is always one statement they make that i can not seem to respond to.

any act of immorality in the bible that i mention to them, i get the response "God has a bigger plan and he see's the bigger picture. we do not understand why these things happened, and no one can understand. No one can understand the mind of God".

i do not know how to reply to that. i feel like there should be an easy answer.. but im just missing it.

any help?

If I loved someone with all my heart, and I used them as a means to a greater end, doesn't that undermine this "love" I have for them? God killing people for the greater good isn't a god that is all-loving.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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Welcome taylor

Just keep questioning and learning.
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#17
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Quote:I don't think it is irrational to believe that there could be some things that people might not be able to know very easily.

Um, excuse me but astrophysics is an example of something that people might not be able to know easily.

Your goat herders god manual is merely representative of the kind of superstitious nonsense which was quite common in the ancient world.
Every culture had an origins tale.
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(March 18, 2013 at 2:48 am)Minimalist Wrote: Every culture had an origins tale.

Which one do you subscribe to?
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Is 93112 a zip code?
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
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Quote:Which one do you subscribe to?

Beginning in 1492 Europeans began landing/exploring and eventually settling in the New World. Our culture grew from that.
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