A Show of Gay Pride

[Fruity]

What is it with sex that is so awful? Did people just have horrible sex and end up hating it so much? Seriously, dude! (scratching my head) I don't fukin get it.

a) Pastor from my old church while preaching says, "You have to stay on top of your children's masturbation habits as a good parent. I ask my children weekly how they're doing with their masturbation. The day they say they masturbated will be the day I failed as a parent."

b) Pastor from my old church makes me stand in front of 500 peeps to say I'm sorry because I had premarital sex. Makes me... because I was brainwashed and like a marionette floating around. All he had to do was pull the strings. Now I know I was mentally ill.

c) Pastor while preaching, "You need to purify your intimacy. Pray before you have sexual encounters with your wife."

And they call us perverts! You can't get much more perverted than that.

Plus, I'm thinking...
what is so awful about sex? Why do you say to turn your sexual desires toward a positive direction? Sex is positive (unless it's rape). I mean... it's enjoyable, it burns calories, it's fun, healthy, etc. It brings people together. It makes relationships stronger. It's natural. Eating is natural. Why not condemn eating before noon? Why not say eating yummy things is awful? Why not make sleeping more than six hours a sin? And even then, why is enjoyment bad? Why would a god make people giving them senses and then prohibit them from using them for pleasure? I truly, faken seriously don't get it with the obsession of religious peeps and sex as a bad thing. You are missing out, dudes! And the worst part is that when you die it does end there and I won't get the chance to tell you that I told you so.

[The Grand Nudger]

Because you have to convince people that they're sick before you can sell them the cure jr.....

[Fruity]

True. It takes a lot of guts to admit you need a cure. I give myself a pat in the back when I think of it (well, not literally, because that would be weird).

[Creed of Heresy]

Ultimately the real cure is to wash your hands of religion. How many studies have shown that suppressing your sex drive is ever a good thing? None that I can think of, but Psychology Today did a bang up job of showing how it's the exact friggin' opposite, and I also humbly beg that those on this forum touting their self-induced repression cease it before they become rapists or worse:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-...the-remedy

Nothing inspires murderous mayhem in human beings more reliably than sexual repression. Denied food, water, or freedom of movement, people will get desperate and some may lash out at what they perceive as the source of their problems, albeit in a weakened state. But if expression of sexuality is thwarted, the human psyche tends to grow twisted into grotesque, enraged perversions of desire. Unfortunately, the distorted rage resulting from sexual repression rarely takes the form of rebellion against the people and institutions behind the repression. (If it did, perhaps we'd be reading of abused priests rather than priests as abusers.) Instead, the rage is generally directed at helpless victims who are sacrificed to the sick gods of guilt, shame, and ignorant pride.

And also this sick piece of work:

As a medical doctor, Kellogg claimed the moral authority to instruct parents on the proper sexual education of their children. If you're unfamiliar with the writings of Kellogg and others like him, their gloating disdain for basic human eroticism is chilling and unmistakable. In his best-selling Plain Facts for Old and Young (written on his sexless honey- moon in 1888), Kellogg offered parents guidance for dealing with their sons' natural erotic self-exploration in a section entitled "Treatment for Self-Abuse and its Effects:"

A remedy which is almost always success- ful in small boys is circumcision. . . . The operation should be performed by a surgeon without administering an anaesthetic, as the brief pain attending the operation will have a salutary effect upon the mind, especially if it be connected with the idea of punishment. . . . [emphasis added]

If circumcising a struggling, terrified boy without anesthesia wasn't quite what a parent had in mind, Kellogg recommended "the application of one or more silver sutures in such a way as to prevent erection. The prepuce, or foreskin, is drawn forward over the glans, and the nee- dle to which the wire is attached is passed through from one side to the other. After drawing the wire through, the ends are twisted together and cut off close. It is now impossible for an erection to occur. . . ."

AAAAAUGH!!!!

Just saying, guys. You can pat yourselves on the back all you'd like but meanwhile I now regard you as ticking time bombs and when you finally do explode [no innuendo intended] you're going to cause misery in other human beings, it's almost guaranteed. There's nothing to pat yourself on the back about; you're swallowing cyanide and calling it a miracle cure.

[Fruity]

The only thing I had to be cured of was the brainwashing I grew up with. After that I was able to stop swallowing what they were feeding me and begin living naturally. The way god intended. Oh wait...

I didn't mean a cure from nature. I meant a cure from religion, because that's how I think of it. But I get you. I just think it takes a lot for someone to man up and leave religion behind when it was carved in for so many years. I'm glad I got out in one piece.

[John V]

A dozen, come now, my mother's seen more dick in her day.

Yes, much more - as noted, it took a dozen or so for her to develop the taste. At least that's what I think she said - she may have had something in her mouth while we spoke.

As expected, you ran off at the mouth pointlessly.

Again, that would be your mother.

Seriously though, someone made an analogy that backfired and I pointed it out. That's pretty common on these boards. Not sure why this one upset you so much. It's not such an important point. In other threads I've shown cross-sectional orientation studies, longitudinal orientation studies, and twins orientations studies which all indicate that orientation is not fixed at birth. This analogy is minor compared to those.

IMO gays will themselves begin to abandon the born gay paradigm once gay marriage is the law of the land.

[The Grand Nudger]

My mother also has a huge mouth, I doubt your little worm would have kept her from talking. If it could, you'd be my best friend. LOL, upset? No, John, I'm amused.

[John V]

My mother also has a huge mouth, I doubt your little worm would have kept her from talking.

It was a phone call, dude. I'm quite happy with my wife.

If it could, you'd be my best friend. LOL, upset? No, John, I'm amused.

You replied once and I ignored it, then you made a second lengthier response. Seems like you're upset.

[The Grand Nudger]

Says the guy who followed up his gigglepost with "Oh yeah? Yo mama!"..................

You just don't have anything intelligent to say on the subject - it;s like a disease with you fuckers. Somebody says "gay" and you completely lose your shit.

[Neo-Scholastic]

What is it with sex that is so awful? Did people just have horrible sex and end up hating it so much? Seriously, dude! (scratching my head) I don't fukin get it.

It's not any different than "Fire: Friend or Foe." Both sex and money are good things until they aren't. An unhealthy all-consuming obsession with anything is bad. Both the whoring rake and the puritanical preacher are obsessed with sex.