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RE: For the logic impaired...
April 1, 2013 at 6:36 pm
This thread is awkward for me. On the one hand, I'm against abortion. On the other, I feel dirty when my mouse hovers over jstrodel's kudos button.
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RE: For the logic impaired...
April 1, 2013 at 6:38 pm
(April 1, 2013 at 10:32 am)SHIN KAIRI Wrote: 12 I will make humans rarer than gold,
scarcer than Ofir’s pure gold.

It's almost as if, when he's not talking about how loving and gentle and benevolent he is, god is reminding us that he intends to turn most of us into little red smears on the bottom of his loving, godly feet. He's all about the warm and fuzzy, that Yahweh!
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RE: For the logic impaired...
April 1, 2013 at 6:41 pm
(April 1, 2013 at 6:28 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: One individual is dependant upon the other individual, but they remain individuals. Dependancy doesn't grant the host power to overcome their responsibility to the other individual.

No they are not indiviuals. it is part of a individual. there is a difference. "A person seprate from other persons and posseing his or her own needs or goals." wiki. and it is her responsibility to choose whether or not to allow the ftus to develop into a person. Her responsibilty to choose to accept futher responsibilty for the care of a human once it has developed from the fetus.
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#74
RE: For the logic impaired...
April 1, 2013 at 6:42 pm
lol


a liberterian who opposes an individuals claim to her right for self determination.
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RE: For the logic impaired...
April 1, 2013 at 6:43 pm
(April 1, 2013 at 6:36 pm)Tiberius Wrote: This thread is awkward for me. On the one hand, I'm against abortion. On the other, I feel dirty when my mouse hovers over jstrodel's kudos button.

Are you against all abortion, period?
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RE: For the logic impaired...
April 1, 2013 at 6:46 pm
(April 1, 2013 at 6:42 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: lol


a liberterian who opposes an individuals claim to her right for self determination.

who me? cause i'm pro-choice.
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RE: For the logic impaired...
April 1, 2013 at 6:51 pm
(April 1, 2013 at 6:29 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: What makes you think that this book has more authority to tell people what to do
Because of this :

Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, & your ways are not my ways, says ADONAI. 9 As high as the sky is above the earth are my ways higher than your ways, & my thoughts than your thoughts.
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RE: For the logic impaired...
April 1, 2013 at 6:53 pm (This post was last modified: April 1, 2013 at 6:56 pm by fr0d0.)
(April 1, 2013 at 6:41 pm)justin Wrote:
(April 1, 2013 at 6:28 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: One individual is dependant upon the other individual, but they remain individuals. Dependancy doesn't grant the host power to overcome their responsibility to the other individual.

No they are not indiviuals. it is part of a individual. there is a difference. "A person seprate from other persons and posseing his or her own needs or goals." wiki. and it is her responsibility to choose whether or not to allow the ftus to develop into a person. Her responsibilty to choose to accept futher responsibilty for the care of a human once it has developed from the fetus.

To me, a person exists from conception... it's how I've come to understand it. You define it differently: after fetus.

The new human is existant from conception. It is never a human 'somewhere along the line'. The information that makes it into the human being is all right there in the fertilised egg. Mum does nothing more than facilitate it's development: her body feeds it and provides a host environment that helps it to develop.
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RE: For the logic impaired...
April 1, 2013 at 6:53 pm (This post was last modified: April 1, 2013 at 6:54 pm by Something completely different.)
(April 1, 2013 at 6:51 pm)SHIN KAIRI Wrote:
(April 1, 2013 at 6:29 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: What makes you think that this book has more authority to tell people what to do
Because of this :

Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, & your ways are not my ways, says ADONAI. 9 As high as the sky is above the earth are my ways higher than your ways, & my thoughts than your thoughts.

And how does this in any way prove that the authority described in your book exists in any kind of way?

Let alone that mankind is obliged to follow it, in case of it`s existance?!
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RE: For the logic impaired...
April 1, 2013 at 6:57 pm
hosea 9:16
numbers 3: 15-16
to name a few verses that says god approves of abortion.
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