Jesus

[Cato]

This is also known as a peacemaker:

So was this:

[A_Nony_Mouse]

A lot has been written about this person.
The church choose mainly the reports of four apostles,

46 gospels not 4 plus the Sibylline oracles. Why there are now only four is unrecorded.

those who sanctify him while disregard the reports of all the rest and deny as well that Jesus was married with Mary Magdalene.

As to 'sanctify him' you are going to have to define that as it does not make a lick of sense.

As to being married, who gives a rat's ass? It would change nothing. If he was not married it is incredible there is no mention of it and an explanation as to why not. Matter of fact in those days he might have had a grandchild or two. Anyway no mention of unmarried means he was married. You recall there is no mention of anyone but Pilate being married in the gospels. It is irrational to conclude the absence of mention is significant in this one case and only in this one case.

But this to me is not even the most interesting part of Jesus life.
What interest me was the fact that nothing is written about his life between the age of 13 and the age of 30 in the church reports.
What did he do and where did he go?

On the assumption he actually existed as a person, which is quite a leap after reading the epistles and certainly the claim he performed magic, then the simplest explanation is he was at home raising his children.

According to other reports Jesus during that time left Palestine and went around the world from the middle east, Persia the indian subcontinent then back in Persia and Greece.

There are only myths. There are no credible reports. There is nothing even worthy of the name report in this matter. Factually only military expeditions would have traveled as far as Persia and India. Merchants traveled short distances along trade routes. But your fancy requires him to have earned a living while traveling so what did he do? Hint: there was no such thing as a traveling carpenter.

There is evidence in Orissa and other places about his travelling and his stay in several hashram (places where people meditate or learn meditation).

If you are talking stories and local traditions that is not evidence. If you claim evidence it can only be physical evidence. Please produce it. If you do want to claim stories are evidence then you have to produce 2000 year old records which show the mention of a visit existed at the time it happened.

As to both, there is none.

But why the church keep silence about all this?

Frankly that is an incredibly dumb question given there is no evidence in support of your nonsense.

According to me the church could and can not make us pretend that Jesus is God if we know that he went around learning about spirituality here and there.

Now you are indulging in another aspect of believer crap. Just what does "learn about spirituality" mean? Define spirituality. Answer only by including references from the gospels. Frankly most everything he is supposed to have said is simply gibberish.

God does not have to learn anything from anyone so it was and still is important that nobody know about his travelling and his learning things.

Raising the whole god issue goes far beyond and is different from anything you have said so far.

Interesting thing is that one wing of the Vatican library is close to the public. My guess is that in this wing you can find the forbidden report about his whole life.

Considering the Vatican and its library did not come into existence until centuries after these events your conspiracy theory has to explain why such material was not well known before the Vatican came into existence. Further the first organization which might be considered the forerunner of the "church" was founded in Byzantium in the early 4th c. AD any such conspiracy theory has to start there. Rome was a backwater nothing until the Renaissance. Byzantium did not lose dominance until it was surrounded by Islam.

You are clearly inventing a conspiracy out of ignorance of history.

One more interesting thing is the fact that according to the church one can not be save unless believe in Jesus.
When i asked a priest how the people who born before Jesus could be saved he said..........well, God will have mercy and they may be saved.

Christianity began as a doomsday cult and much of it still is but that is not the point. The entire idea of saving was invented after believers had to face the fact they needed something to keep the donations flowing when people started leaving for the world not ending. Augustine was the greatest contributor to keeping the cash flowing when he tortured the Eden story until it admitted original sin.

[The Grand Nudger]

The entire idea of saving was invented after believers had to face the fact they needed something to keep the donations flowing when people started leaving for the world not ending. Augustine was the greatest contributor to keeping the cash flowing when he tortured the Eden story until it admitted original sin.

A habit of continual reinvention that persists to this very day - every time the world stubbornly refuses to end when the holyman calls it's number.

[A_Nony_Mouse]

Who would have written about Jesus' childhood, and why? It wasn't till He became of age (33 is legal age that a rabbi can begin his ministry) that anything really happened.

Also to your second point the Bible Does not say one has to be a Christian in order to be save. It says Christ will judge or determine who to save, (No man comes unto the Father but through Him.)

The gospels say he started at 30 not 33. There is no legal age for rabbis.

There is no evidence rabbis existed prior to the Bar Kockbah revolt a century later. So far as I can tell this rabbi crap was invented in the last 20-30 years or so.

No place in the New Testament is there any mention of a Christus being a judge of anything. We have no idea who invented that idea. Your quote does not say judge or that judgement is involved. A club bouncer could say something similar.

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See, this Jesus sounds pretty fucking awesome.

YES! I have seen TV shows about kids like this. The one on Twilight Zone sent people into the cornfield.

Rational behavior of the adults at the time would have been to kill it.

[Minimalist]

It's funny how your dates keep migrating 100 years everytime dates are discussed.

200 CE is the start of the THIRD century and 500 CE is the start of the SIXTH century. Try to keep up will you Drippy.

The Talmudic principles were orally taught.

Not to fucking illiterate peasants in Galilee they weren't.

Temple Judaism revolved around animal sacrifice IN THE TEMPLE. The priests there maintained a strict monopoly on that. They only gave it up when the Romans burned the fucking thing and garrisoned the Tenth Legion on the site.

[A_Nony_Mouse]

You know what I want to know? How come none of these stories - in any myth cycle or fiction - ever discuss the basic necessities of life...like finding a bathroom. No one ever seems to need to pee on epic (or in Jesus' case, not so epic) adventures. And none of the women ever complain after sex about having to clean up a man's 'gift' to her. I find this highly unrealistic.

That is how we get even for making us all wet and sticky.

[thesummerqueen]

And no man in the stories ever complains about that either. Maybe David and I are too fastidious...we always clean up afterwards.

[A_Nony_Mouse]

Women were probably stoned back then for trying to wipe away the extra man-seed, because that act would mean denying their entire point of existence, being a baby-making machine.

No. No microscopes means no sperm. Some place in that sticky stuff was a seed. That the word is both singular and plural in English does not change the original usage.

This was an agrarian analogy. The woman was the soil. The better the seed the better the crop. The better the soil the better the crop.

When Jesus talks about good seed in good soil he is telling a dirty joke. The punch line doesn't translate well.

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In all fairness to the Bible fiction, "The Walking Dead" doesn't deal with these matters either.

The first Night of the Living Dead occurred after Jesus left his tomb. It is not reported if the men of renown of old were hungry.

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I'm including TV and other books in this. Like the Wheel of Time series I'm currently reading. PEEING IS IMPORTANT PEOPLE! And I don't feel right if I don't get my morning poop over with properly! In fact, that should be a legit reason to call out from work! "Morning constitutional not accomplished. Can't work."

Do not berate the folks in the past for ignoring such things.

Over the years I have seen untold hundreds of soft core bondage scenes on TV and in the movies. Only once in some anime episode of some did they run to the bathroom after being untied. And there it was two women, one got into the bathroom and the other was pounding on the door to be let in. It was played for a laugh instead of for realism.

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Wow! Ok ...atheists. That comment i put up was for christians, to get them thinking, if it was for the illusioned atheists i would have said so. Some atheists that have replied with nonsense, your knowledge of Islam is ...very POOR. If you read the quran you would thinl twice before saying what you are to muslims. I am not going to start a dialogue at the moment with you guys,

Everything you post is for all participants. Get used to it.

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This is also known as a peacemaker:

Blessed be the peacemakers who show up here to cause discord. Creating a need for themselves sort of.

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http://www.angelfire.com/me4/bread/h/LYNDA_rabbi.html

First of all, the only time the term "33" appears in that whole jumble of bullshit is a reference to Matthew 22-33. Nothing whatsoever about 33 years which is what I thought.

But an even bigger problem for you is this

The office of Rabbi required a person to be particularly well versed in the scriptures and the Talmud

The talmud did not even begin to be compiled until long after your phony godboy was allegedly nailed up. How could he be an expert in a book which had not been written? This drivel looks like it was put out by some xtian asshole who knows little more than you...which is precious little.

Are you always so easily fooled?

Ah so. But since he was an expert in something that did not exist until 600 years after his death does that not prove he is god?

[A_Nony_Mouse]

Islam means peace and submission to god.

Islam does not mean peace. Only "to submit"

Islam contains a lot of messages permitting and even encouraging violence.

Stop trying to twist what things "mean" just because you personally choose to ignore those messages that do encourage violence.

I don't see your point here. It is supposedly the same god as in the Septuagint stories. That is the god that invented genocide and ordered pedophilia. Although not strictly peaceful the Koran is a tremendous improvement over the savage Judean Yahweh cult.

[Minimalist]

Ah so. But since he was an expert in something that did not exist until 600 years after his death does that not prove he is god?

Proves that his followers are deluded dickheads.