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RE: Jesus
April 18, 2013 at 4:26 pm
(This post was last modified: April 18, 2013 at 5:06 pm by Drich.)
(April 18, 2013 at 11:21 am)Rhythm Wrote: (April 18, 2013 at 11:08 am)Drich Wrote: Also to your second point the Bible Does not say one has to be a Christian in order to be save. It says Christ will judge or determine who to save, (No man comes unto the Father but through Him.)
Good, then if push comes to shove I can lean on the contents of my person and action -and not worry about all this christ shit. Why are you here again? Straw man... I did not say any of that. I said No man comes to the Father but by Christ. Meaning Christ will judge who is Christian and who is not. In Mat 7 Christ tells us that not who claim to be Christian will be judged as 'saved' (Meaning they were not Christian according to Christ even though they claimed christianity as their religion) and subversly the OT (More specifically the prophets) are examples on Heavenward bound non Christians.
So again, Christianity is not the key to eternity Christ is. Christianity is a path many take to find the Key to Eternity.
(April 18, 2013 at 1:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote: (April 18, 2013 at 11:08 am)Drich Wrote: Who would have written about Jesus' childhood, and why? It wasn't till He became of age (33 is legal age that a rabbi can begin his ministry) that anything really happened.
Um, Drippy, did you pull that out of your ass...like usual? Where is your citation from a Jewish authority?
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/bread/h/LYNDA_rabbi.html
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RE: Jesus
April 18, 2013 at 5:07 pm
(April 18, 2013 at 4:26 pm)Drich Wrote: (April 18, 2013 at 11:21 am)Rhythm Wrote: Good, then if push comes to shove I can lean on the contents of my person and action -and not worry about all this christ shit. Why are you here again? Straw man... I did not say any of that. I said No man comes to the Father but by Christ. Meaning Christ will judge who is Christian and who is not. In Mat 7 Christ tells us that not who claim to be Christian will be judged as 'saved' (Meaning they were not Christian according to Christ even though they claimed christianity as their religion) and subversly the OT (More specifically the prophets) are examples on Heavenward bound non Christians.
So again, Christianity is not the key to eternity Christ is. Christianity is a path many take to find the Key to Eternity.
That's what Rhythm said, though. If indelicately. You probably just reacted viscerally to the phrase "christ shit," huh?
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RE: Jesus
April 18, 2013 at 5:19 pm
Wow! Ok ...atheists. That comment i put up was for christians, to get them thinking, if it was for the illusioned atheists i would have said so. Some atheists that have replied with nonsense, your knowledge of Islam is ...very POOR. If you read the quran you would thinl twice before saying what you are to muslims. I am not going to start a dialogue at the moment with you guys,
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RE: Jesus
April 18, 2013 at 5:26 pm
(April 18, 2013 at 5:19 pm)peacemaker Wrote: Wow! Ok ...atheists. That comment i put up was for christians, to get them thinking, if it was for the illusioned atheists i would have said so. Some atheists that have replied with nonsense, your knowledge of Islam is ...very POOR. If you read the quran you would thinl twice before saying what you are to muslims. I am not going to start a dialogue at the moment with you guys,
Why are you here then? Shouldn't you be at ChristianForums ?
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RE: Jesus
April 18, 2013 at 5:37 pm
(April 18, 2013 at 5:19 pm)peacemaker Wrote: Wow! Ok ...atheists. That comment i put up was for christians, to get them thinking, if it was for the illusioned atheists i would have said so. Some atheists that have replied with nonsense, your knowledge of Islam is ...very POOR. If you read the quran you would thinl twice before saying what you are to muslims. I am not going to start a dialogue at the moment with you guys,
It sounded indistinguishable from preaching from where I sit. Preaching isn't received very well here.
If you have something to say or discuss why not start a new thread rather than bumping in here in an off-topic sort of way?
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RE: Jesus
April 18, 2013 at 6:09 pm
Muhammad was the opposite of a paedophile, thief, terrorist, liar and untrustworthy. So don't bother talking about something which you have no knowledge of, i will be satisfied if i actually recieved valid responses, and not just hate and false tales of the religion of our creator. I have just realised how un-educated some of you are about islam. I will give you an example that even the media itself will agree with: a man kills 5 people on a street at night while drunk, and another man who is a muslim gets revenge for the killing and rape of his mother by killing those two people who did that to his mum.The man who killed 5 people will be on page number 12/13 with the headline ; Man murders 5 people. Simple. Lets look at what the medias reaction is to the muslim man; Muslim islamic extremist terrorist terrorises 2 innocent people.
And this example is just one of many i can give about diifferent misconceptions as well, can you see what i am trying to say now. Please don't let the media force you to believe in extravagant lies, rather get the truth and use your own head and don't act towards these things with arrogance. peace
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RE: Jesus
April 18, 2013 at 6:24 pm
JesusHChrist and Mo in a sidecar!
Open a new thread! This thread is about Jeebs, not Mo-man. If you want to defent Mo, open a new thread. I'm sure you'll attract many participants. Lots of us love talking about Mo and Friends.
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Re: RE: Jesus
April 18, 2013 at 7:03 pm
(April 18, 2013 at 6:09 pm)peacemaker Wrote: Muhammad was the opposite of a paedophile, thief, terrorist, liar and untrustworthy. So don't bother talking about something which you have no knowledge of, i will be satisfied if i actually recieved valid responses, and not just hate and false tales of the religion of our creator. I have just realised how un-educated some of you are about islam. You are right. I didn't know Mohammed was the creator too. Wait is he..... Is he Jesus son?
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RE: Jesus
April 18, 2013 at 7:11 pm
(April 18, 2013 at 7:03 pm)frz Wrote: (April 18, 2013 at 6:09 pm)peacemaker Wrote: Muhammad was the opposite of a paedophile, thief, terrorist, liar and untrustworthy. So don't bother talking about something which you have no knowledge of, i will be satisfied if i actually recieved valid responses, and not just hate and false tales of the religion of our creator. I have just realised how un-educated some of you are about islam. You are right. I didn't know Mohammed was the creator too. Wait is he..... Is he Jesus son?
More like great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandson.... I hope I got the number of "great"s right....
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RE: Jesus
April 18, 2013 at 7:56 pm
(This post was last modified: April 18, 2013 at 7:59 pm by Cyberman.)
(April 18, 2013 at 5:19 pm)peacemaker Wrote: Wow! Ok ...atheists. That comment i put up was for christians, to get them thinking,
Good luck with that.
(April 18, 2013 at 5:19 pm)peacemaker Wrote: if it was for the illusioned atheists i would have said so.
Aha - I knew you lot were just illusions! Busted!
Except that my illusions usually have more nudie grunty action going on...
(April 18, 2013 at 5:19 pm)peacemaker Wrote: Some atheists that have replied with nonsense, your knowledge of Islam is ...very POOR.
The same could be said of your knowledge of atheism, if your earlier comment is anything to go by. Still, we can always learn from each other.
(April 18, 2013 at 5:19 pm)peacemaker Wrote: If you read the quran you would thinl twice before saying what you are to muslims.
If people read the kerrang, there would be more atheists.
(April 18, 2013 at 5:19 pm)peacemaker Wrote: I am not going to start a dialogue at the moment with you guys,
Discussion forum - you're doing it wrong.
(April 18, 2013 at 6:09 pm)peacemaker Wrote: Muhammad was the opposite of a paedophile, thief, terrorist, liar and untrustworthy.
You do realise, don't you, that the opposite of a paedophile would be a paedophobe: someone with an intense and irrational fear of children. Not to mention that the opposite of a thief would be someone who forces possessions onto people against their will.
(April 18, 2013 at 6:09 pm)peacemaker Wrote: I have just realised how un-educated some of you are about islam. I will give you an example that even the media itself will agree with: a man kills 5 people on a street at night while drunk, and another man who is a muslim gets revenge for the killing and rape of his mother by killing those two people who did that to his mum.The man who killed 5 people will be on page number 12/13 with the headline ; Man murders 5 people. Simple. Lets look at what the medias reaction is to the muslim man; Muslim islamic extremist terrorist terrorises 2 innocent people.
And this example is just one of many i can give about diifferent misconceptions as well, can you see what i am trying to say now. Please don't let the media force you to believe in extravagant lies, rather get the truth and use your own head and don't act towards these things with arrogance. peace
A- choo! <sniff> 'Scuse me... all that straw is setting off my hayfever. Maybe if you used a real example, I'd feel more up to giving a proper response.
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