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UK Religious laws = Government Vs. People
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RE: UK Religious laws = Government Vs. People
(April 25, 2013 at 12:36 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: There was a Census in 2009? :/
Or a public survey :/ not sure... But either way it was on a nationwide scale.
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RE: UK Religious laws = Government Vs. People
(April 25, 2013 at 12:36 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: There was a Census in 2009? :/

No I believe he's referring to this:

http://www.natcen.ac.uk/series/british-social-attitudes
http://ir2.flife.de/data/natcen-social-r...ligion.pdf
http://www.bsa-29.natcen.ac.uk/

The BSA does a fine job in collating non-official data on a myriad of topics. Some argue their data is more reliable than the ONS in academic circles due to the repeated investigations throughout various years as opposed to the ONS' decade long wait till the next study.

The data reports around 50% idenitfy as having no religion. The argument is that the census over reports religious figures because a lot of people identify as nominal Christians (being born and raised in the faith but having no real affiliation), whereas the BSA's more informal and less 'official looking' data collection methdology means people tend to be a little more honest about what their actual beliefs are.

In reality, whilst the BSA survey says around 50% have no religion, I'm willing to bet the figure is actually a lot higher than that.
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RE: UK Religious laws = Government Vs. People
(April 26, 2013 at 5:23 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:
(April 25, 2013 at 12:36 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: There was a Census in 2009? :/

No I believe he's referring to this:

http://www.natcen.ac.uk/series/british-social-attitudes
http://ir2.flife.de/data/natcen-social-r...ligion.pdf
http://www.bsa-29.natcen.ac.uk/

The BSA does a fine job in collating non-official data on a myriad of topics. Some argue their data is more reliable than the ONS in academic circles due to the repeated investigations throughout various years as opposed to the ONS' decade long wait till the next study.

The data reports around 50% idenitfy as having no religion. The argument is that the census over reports religious figures because a lot of people identify as nominal Christians (being born and raised in the faith but having no real affiliation), whereas the BSA's more informal and less 'official looking' data collection methdology means people tend to be a little more honest about what their actual beliefs are.

In reality, whilst the BSA survey says around 50% have no religion, I'm willing to bet the figure is actually a lot higher than that.
Indeed, personally I would say the Secularism's largest enemy in the UK and possibly all of W.EU is religious ignorance, not the same as I hear about in the South of the USA but instead that people have the old fashioned belief that religiousness is a 'kind' quality. Also a lot of people are the classic "Uhh... I'm a christian but I don't read the bible or go to church except from at Christmas." Religion needs to move from a "Good" trait to a neutral one then we'd on the right track. Trouble is there is a stigma with atheism.

It has all the lack of so called "Kind/Goodness" of Christianity without the (almost "white-guilt" like) fear of disrespecting other people's beliefs that most Christians have. Whether that guilt is good or not the point is we are at a severe disadvantage of influence in the country.

Also a recent YouGov poll claimed that men were less likely to believe in a god than women, 39% of men as opposed to 49% of women. My theory is that Women give into the social pressure of having to be Innocent and Kind (Obv. Bullsh-t) but Kindness "=" Religion as I said before and so they "Believe" in God, usually the god of the bible.

This is really worrying to me, if it's true, both that there are so many people who clearly have never read the bible all the way through, or understand it but claim to be Christian as it's the law and that Women are more socially pressured to be Christian than men. And I'm not talking about this weird-ass cyber-bullying shit, I'm saying that this is what is normal and as we all know to most young people normal means cool.
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