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Dear Christians
RE: Dear Christians
Important points or... the points you wish to address. Don't try and claim false authority Ray. You have none.

The Fall. Yes, Judaism interprets the story that Christianity mirrors. There is no subsequent modifications to that in the NT.

The Trinity

I've already explained this. What Islam/ Mohammed rejects isn't even based on the ideas presented. The Christian God is still the Judaic God 100%, where Allah is no where near. Yes, to the ignorant, you can divide the two as trinitarian and non trinitarian. But that would be to obscure the truth. You may be following the author of deception (Allah) and be being a good Muslim there.

Do you know that God could not be the three in one as described in Christianity? If so on what basis are you objecting?

Paul changed nothing, but followed the words of Christ himself, who clearly asserted his divinity. Jesus taught his followers to keep the law. He also told them that he was the only way. Ehrman is hardly the theologian. Merely someone looking to interpret his own way.

Look to a Jewish source if you want to see the truth about how they view the Islamic corruption. Converts from Judaism to Christianity have no transitional issues regarding God. Jesus is reaffirming their faith after all.
Islam, on the other hand, draws from many other sources before and during its cross pollination with Judaism. What remains is unrecognisable to Jews and Christians. I don't know why Muslims feel the need to chase our approval. maybe it's because there is little to respect without it.

Your failure to address the other points are noted.
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RE: Dear Christians
(May 18, 2013 at 8:42 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The Fall. Yes, Judaism interprets the story that Christianity mirrors. There is no subsequent modifications to that in the NT.

And I have exposed the falsehood of that particular claim in my previous reply, which remains unrefuted.

(May 18, 2013 at 8:42 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The Christian God is still the Judaic God 100%, where Allah is no where near.

So, does the Judaic God consist of a Trinity as well?

If your answer to that is yes, then I would like to see you support that answer by quoting at least a single verse from the OT.

(May 18, 2013 at 8:42 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Yes, to the ignorant, you can divide the two as trinitarian and non trinitarian. But that would be to obscure the truth.

What about those who are not ignorant? Do they believe that both are Trinitarian deities ... or what?

(May 18, 2013 at 8:42 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Paul changed nothing, but followed the words of Christ himself, who clearly asserted his divinity. Jesus taught his followers to keep the law.

Paul did change some things, and that is known from the fact that Jesus taught his followers to keep the law, yes, whereas Paul did not.

According to Matthew, Jesus said:
"Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." [Matthew 5:17-18]

But Paul said:
"Those who depend on obeying the Law live under a curse." [Galatians 3:10]
"Because law brings wrath. And where there is no law there is no transgression." [Romans 4:15]
"For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the Law." [Romans 3:28]
"The Law was in charge of us until Jesus came. Now Law is no more." [Galatians 3:24]

That is one of the most glaring examples of how the teachings of Paul stand in stark contradiction with those of Jesus.

More info here: Understanding the Law

(May 18, 2013 at 8:42 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Your failure to address the other points are noted.

I don't have to address them especially since most of those points are simply assertions of what you think or believe (oftentimes vaguely worded) with no elaboration to support them.

It is as if those comments automatically register themselves as errors with or without being refuted.
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