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Atheism is a religion (according to D. Smartt)
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Atheism is a religion (according to D. Smartt)
The following abstract does not represent my views:
"Atheists often claim that their belief is not a religion. This allows them to propagate their beliefs in settings where other religions are banned, but this should not be so. (...) The dichotomy that Atheists try to create between science and religion is false. The conflict is between interpretations of science coming from different religious worldviews.
Atheism shouldn’t be taught or enforced in settings where other religions are banned and shouldn’t be favoured by laws which imply a religiously neutral government."

(Smartt, D. (05/04/2010), "Atheism: A religion", http://creation.com/atheism-a-religion)


The article states that atheism has six of the seven attributes of a religion (defined by Ninian Smart);
it is narrative (evolution is a story that leads to atheism), experiential (it requires faith in abiogenesis), social (atheists convert religious people to atheism via teaching evolution), doctrinal (Secular Humanism is a doctrine of atheism), ethical (it gives moral guidelines, which are derived from other religions) and material (nature is treated as divine).

And there is more. One of the comments (again, not my views):
"They [atheists] use circular reasoning, bait and switch tactics, and the 'pot calling the kettle black' routine. I myself used to believe in evolution until I went for higher education and I noticed problems in the theories that were largely ignored. (...) They believe in God but they hate him obscenely. I think this is the root of all of atheism." (sic)
(the text between square brackets is added by me)

It does seem that Mr. Smartt has made some errors in his article. What do you think?
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#2
RE: Atheism is a religion (according to D. Smartt)
I think he sounds like an idiot.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: Atheism is a religion (according to D. Smartt)
(April 30, 2013 at 1:08 pm)Luminox Wrote: It does seem that Mr. Smartt has made some errors in his article. What do you think?

He hasn't gotten one thing correct.

So, yeah, I'd say his article is loaded with errors.

What an ass-hat.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#4
RE: Atheism is a religion (according to D. Smartt)
Simon and Tonus pretty much captured what I was going to say, but I've been looking for an opportunity to exclaim "What a crock of shit!"

What a crock of shit!

Big Grin
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#5
RE: Atheism is a religion (according to D. Smartt)
Hey, could we be due a tax break?



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.




 








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RE: Atheism is a religion (according to D. Smartt)
Hope so. A bit of funding would make propogating our beliefs so much easier.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#7
RE: Atheism is a religion (according to D. Smartt)
The more people I can get to share my "atheistic world view" the better.



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.




 








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#8
RE: Atheism is a religion (according to D. Smartt)
Personally, I've never been able to deconvert anybody. People believe what they want to believe, despite all logic.
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RE: Atheism is a religion (according to D. Smartt)
All we need to do is instill faith in abiogenesis by teaching religious people the story of evolution and the doctrine of Secular Humanism, then they will hate God obscenely, treat nature as divine and derive their morals from other religions. Tomorrow the world!
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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Re: Atheism is a religion (according to D. Smartt)
I can't wait to drink the blood and body of divine nature. Oh wait...
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